[OZAPRS] bethungra-ginini

Glen English VK1XX glenlist at pacificmedia.com.au
Wed Nov 15 18:55:39 AEDT 2017


Hi Graeme

fine business.

Happy for Ginini to do what it does best- sees everyone, does the
regional heavy lifting. Otherwise all the $$$$$$ paid to Air Services
each year is worthless...The tower space though is tight.

Ginini changes today- revert Vk1RHR exclusion, exclude VK1RBM-1 (until
dupes issues sorted) , also set FIXBITS=2 (was =1), improves data
demodulator  another dB....

all via my 3.5 kbps SSH link. yes 3.5 kilo bps half duplex.  I don't
have an antenna specific to the link band right now so I have to work
with the signal I've got until the link moves to Isaacs Ridge (line of
site to ginini with internet) ...

-glen

On 15/11/2017 6:24 PM, Graeme wrote:
> Hi Glen,
>
> Locally there is an intention to install a digi on Mt Bethungra.  A
> coverage map that I generated shows that it will reach Ginini with
> good signal which is expected anyway as my igate hears Ginini yet my
> igate is further away and at a lower altitude.  The coverage map shows
> that Bethungra will not reliably reach the Goulburn area although the
> criteria was for a a mobile antenna so might reach JUZ.  I have no
> expectation that Bethungra will link with RHR.
>
> Graeme
> 2HFG
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Glen English VK1XX
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:16 PM
> To: ozaprs at aprs.net.au
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] VK2RHR-1 raw
>
> Hi Graeme .
>
> I disagree. Sydney proper DOES hit RHR on a good number of occasions,
> anywhere in the SW, and anywhere in the north that is elevated.  It is
> where I grew up.
>
> I've re instated from RHR-1 digi at RGI  for the moment...
>
> However there will be a change when I figure out how , and,
> and subject to some testing with older TNCs and gear , in order to
> ascertain compatibility and problems,
>
> that RHR will be considered a WIDE2 , and as such will have used up the
> WIDE2-1 in the list, and so will be dropped when heard.
>
> Packets with some other address match like SENSW or RVR will be
> digipeated... on some format to permit on forwarding , like they might
> be digipeated with VK1RGI-1*,SENSW2-1
>
> this means ginini would become a specific link for you guys.  I would
> have thought you'd have a path direct to JUZ or RHR from somewhere up
> north of Coota ?
>
> good discussion , anyway
>
> back to Python.
>
>
> :-)
>
> Users will need to reprogram their gear if they
> On 15/11/2017 2:43 PM, Graeme wrote:
>> Hello Glen,
>>
>> Sydney proper does not hit RHR - it's mostly only after leaving Sydney
>> that RHR comes into play and vehicles travelling south are not
>> necessarily heading into Canberra, bypassing Canberra mostly past or
>> through the Riverina heading into Victoria or SA, with others heading
>> west from Yass. Users wouldn't reconfigure their paths for out of
>> Sydney travelling so would remain wide1, wide2-1 then get dropped
>> prematurely by RGI after only having been first heard by RHR.
>>
>> I don't agree with VK2XRX-9>S3T8P9,VK2RHR-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1 being
>> dropped/ignored by RGI unless all people who might travel out of urban
>> areas change to wide1,wide2-2 permanently which I suspect will cause
>> far more congestion.
>>
>> Graeme
>> 2HFG
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Glen English VK1XX
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:32 PM
>> To: ozaprs at aprs.net.au
>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] VK2RHR-1 raw
>>
>> Hi Graeme ,
>>
>> I take ur point. we'll see what overs have to say .
>>
>> The thing is the SPIRIT of WIDE2-1 in sydney would not include Ginini
>> .....
>>
>> For that, a user could run WIDE2-2
>>
>> so, if I treat WIDE2-1 out of RHR as a drop  but 22-2 from RHR as a
>> pass, that will be fine.
>>
>> on receipt of this :
>> VK2XRX-9>S3T8P9,VK2RHR-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1:
>>
>> RGI should treat as DROP/IGNORE
>>
>> on receipt of this :
>> VK2XRX-9>S3T8P9,VK2RHR-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-2:
>>
>> RGI would generate this : (as it considers RHR a WIDE2)
>>
>> VK2XRX-9>S3T8P9,VK2RHR-1,VK2RGI-1*,
>>
>> you would get the traffic that way.
>>
>> comments ?
>>
>>
>> On 15/11/2017 12:59 PM, Graeme wrote:
>>> Glen,
>>>
>>> RHR only draws from south of Sydney from around the
>>> Campbelltown/Camden area which is easily a day's return drive that I
>>> do myself from the eastern Riverina and therefore of interest to
>>> people in the Riverina.  I don't think that RGI should exclude RHR's
>>> messages.
>>>
>>> Graeme
>>> 2HFG
>>
>>
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