[OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.

[Geoff Gatward]

Looks like it's a UI-View plugin that's been written as a 'good idea' to
turn APRS into a BBS network... (UI-Store and Forward) ???   In VK,
VK4FY-2 is running this software, and this is where all the traffic is
originating from.

A quick search on aprs.fi for  MAIL_FOR  shows a few stations globally
running the same software, and interestingly they all have the same
problem with their raw posits - not sure exactly what is wrong, but
SOMETHING is pretty wrong with the plugin as it's sending garbage
packets into the network.

At a minimum VK4FY-2 should change the frequency of these beacons to
maybe once per hour rather than every 5 minutes as seems to be currently
configured.....

Jut took a look at the duplicate packet logs on first and
second.aprs.net.au and they are chokkas with of this stuff.

Geoff

On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 17:32 +0930, Geoff Gatward wrote:
> I'd be questioning what these NETACTIVE and MAIL_FOR objects are, and
> who is sending them.
> 
> The string on the end of the NETACTIVE beacon is a list of weather
> warnings sent out by WXSVR-AU - but why whoever NETACTIVE is is picking
> them up and spamming the APRS stream with rubbish is beyond me....
> 
> Looking back through the posts on this subject all teh bad packets
> appear to be from some automatic system that is injecting stuff that is
> completely irrellevant into the stream.
> 
> MAIL_FOR
> NETACTIVE
> STORE_FWD
> 
> APRS is not a BBS system - someone out there is trying to use it as
> one....
> 
> Geoff  
> VK2XJG/VK8GG
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 01:11 +0000, Peter Wicklein wrote:
> > Steve and all...
> >  
> > Yes I get the similar thing from aprs.fi using UIview as an Igate and
> > viewing raw packets.. see below 
> >  
> > 2011-03-08 00:05:44 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
> > 2011-03-08 00:08:40 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
> > \14506.19E?No Messages
> > 2011-03-08 00:15:17 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
> > 2011-03-08 00:15:30 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=6
> > 2011-03-08 00:20:29 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO for S&F
> > 2011-03-08 00:22:56 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO for S&F
> > 2011-03-08 00:25:35 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
> > 2011-03-08 00:25:40 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
> > 2011-03-08 00:25:44 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
> > 2011-03-08 00:39:39 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
> > 2011-03-08 00:45:16 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
> > 2011-03-08 00:45:28 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=5
> > 2011-03-08 00:45:37 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
> > 2011-03-08 00:45:43 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
> > 2011-03-08 00:45:45 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E
> > 2011-03-08 00:50:30 UTC:
> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO for S&F
> >  
> >  
> > See the mail_for says its moving at 500KM in red .... same as
> > netactive ... but the location is the same...
> >  
> > Regards
> >  
> > Peter
> > 
> >  
> > > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:59:04 +1100
> > > From: steven at nami.com.au
> > > To: ozaprs at aprs.net.au
> > > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
> > > 
> > > Refer to this blog entry from Hessu re timing problems on aprs.fi.
> > > 
> > > http://blog.aprs.fi/2008/03/on-duplicate-and-delayed-packets.html
> > > 
> > > Could this also be causing your problems?
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > Steven VK2BOS
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 08/03/11 08:41, Gordon Taylor wrote:
> > > > Come on experts, I raised this a few days ago. What is going on, a
> > fixed
> > > > location exceeding 500kmh?????
> > > >
> > > > I drove to Brisbane and back yesterday (VK4VP-7) and had heaps of
> > the
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