[OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.

Tue Mar 8 20:44:36 EST 2011

Its what we call in the business

"HAM SPAM"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Gatward" <geoff-lists at gatwards.org>
To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.


> Looks like it's a UI-View plugin that's been written as a 'good idea' to
> turn APRS into a BBS network... (UI-Store and Forward) ???   In VK,
> VK4FY-2 is running this software, and this is where all the traffic is
> originating from.
>
> A quick search on aprs.fi for  MAIL_FOR  shows a few stations globally
> running the same software, and interestingly they all have the same
> problem with their raw posits - not sure exactly what is wrong, but
> SOMETHING is pretty wrong with the plugin as it's sending garbage
> packets into the network.
>
> At a minimum VK4FY-2 should change the frequency of these beacons to
> maybe once per hour rather than every 5 minutes as seems to be currently
> configured.....
>
> Jut took a look at the duplicate packet logs on first and
> second.aprs.net.au and they are chokkas with of this stuff.
>
> Geoff
>
> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 17:32 +0930, Geoff Gatward wrote:
>> I'd be questioning what these NETACTIVE and MAIL_FOR objects are, and
>> who is sending them.
>>
>> The string on the end of the NETACTIVE beacon is a list of weather
>> warnings sent out by WXSVR-AU - but why whoever NETACTIVE is is picking
>> them up and spamming the APRS stream with rubbish is beyond me....
>>
>> Looking back through the posts on this subject all teh bad packets
>> appear to be from some automatic system that is injecting stuff that is
>> completely irrellevant into the stream.
>>
>> MAIL_FOR
>> NETACTIVE
>> STORE_FWD
>>
>> APRS is not a BBS system - someone out there is trying to use it as
>> one....
>>
>> Geoff
>> VK2XJG/VK8GG
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 01:11 +0000, Peter Wicklein wrote:
>> > Steve and all...
>> >
>> > Yes I get the similar thing from aprs.fi using UIview as an Igate and
>> > viewing raw packets.. see below
>> >
>> > 2011-03-08 00:05:44 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW 
>> > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>> > 2011-03-08 00:08:40 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
>> > \14506.19E?No Messages
>> > 2011-03-08 00:15:17 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX 
>> > Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
>> > 2011-03-08 00:15:30 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=6
>> > 2011-03-08 00:20:29 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO for 
>> > S&F
>> > 2011-03-08 00:22:56 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO for 
>> > S&F
>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:35 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:40 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
>> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:44 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW 
>> > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>> > 2011-03-08 00:39:39 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:16 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX 
>> > Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:28 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=5
>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:37 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:43 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
>> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:45 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW 
>> > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E
>> > 2011-03-08 00:50:30 UTC:
>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO for 
>> > S&F
>> >
>> >
>> > See the mail_for says its moving at 500KM in red .... same as
>> > netactive ... but the location is the same...
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
>> >
>> > > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:59:04 +1100
>> > > From: steven at nami.com.au
>> > > To: ozaprs at aprs.net.au
>> > > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
>> > >
>> > > Refer to this blog entry from Hessu re timing problems on aprs.fi.
>> > >
>> > > http://blog.aprs.fi/2008/03/on-duplicate-and-delayed-packets.html
>> > >
>> > > Could this also be causing your problems?
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > > Steven VK2BOS
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 08/03/11 08:41, Gordon Taylor wrote:
>> > > > Come on experts, I raised this a few days ago. What is going on, a
>> > fixed
>> > > > location exceeding 500kmh?????
>> > > >
>> > > > I drove to Brisbane and back yesterday (VK4VP-7) and had heaps of
>> > the
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