[OZAPRS] HF Paths etc

[OE3MZC Mike]

G'day,
on HF it is good to have very short packets. So NO PATH is an option.
However, in order to have signals gated from HF to VHF into APRS network
You could use path
To APRS via GATE, WIDE2-2

This will cause the packet to be retransmitted on VHF and digipeated 2
times.

But the path of VK4UN-4 seems definitely wrong to me:
> fm VK4UN-4 to GATE via WIDE ctl UIv pid F0 - 10.07.11 16:30:45
>> 061228zUI-View32 V2.03

Vy 73 de Mike
Oe3mzc


-----Original Message-----
From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
Behalf Of Robert Thirkettle
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Juli 2011 23:43
To: Australian APRS Users
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] HF Paths etc

Hi All yes that is a good choice I don't run an I gate as I have problems
with it staying connected so I pass gate stations to a VHF radio port and
our digi only supports widen-n so to be digied to an Igate widen-n is
required
 

Regards Rob Thirkettle   ZL3RX        
Dept  Physics & Astronomy
University of Canterbury     
Private Bag 4800,         
Christchurch 8020,
New Zealand
Tel: +64 3 364 2510
Fax: +64 3 364 2469
mailto:rob.thirkettle at canterbury.ac.nz


-----Original Message-----
From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
Behalf Of Gordon VK4VP
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2011 11:55 a.m.
To: 'Australian APRS Users'
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] HF Paths etc

I have heard it mentioned before that UI-View in particular will pass RELAY
or WIDE as that was current at the time of UI-View development.  This
assumes the APRs Servers do not do any filtering for paths on their inputs.

When I have an HF IGate running I use GATE,WIDE and I set up VK4UN's HF
IGATE so it is the same.

Rob, are you saying we should use GATE,WIDE2-2 or similar.

Regards,
Gordo VK4VP

-----Original Message-----
From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
Behalf Of Ray Wells
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2011 07:15
To: ozaprs at aprs.net.au
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] HF Paths etc

On 10/07/11 06:18, Robert Thirkettle wrote:
> Hi All copied on 10MHz these stations if they want there packets to 
> gate need to change there paths to via gate,widen-n for ZL at least we
have not used wide for many years the gate needs to be after via?
>
> Regards Rob ZL3RX
>
> fm VK4HW-4 to WIDE1-1 via WIDE2-2 ctl UI^ pid F0 - 10.07.11 10:53:24
>> 091103zDX: VK3MY-4 37.51.54S 145.18.28E 1334.0km 210ø 19:20
>
>
> fm VK4UN-4 to GATE via WIDE ctl UIv pid F0 - 10.07.11 11:00:26 
> =2621.48S/15259.33E&HF GATEWAY {UIV32}
>
>
> fm VK4UN-4 to GATE via WIDE ctl UIv pid F0 - 10.07.11 16:30:45
>> 061228zUI-View32 V2.03
>
>
> fm VK4HW-4 to WIDE1-1 via WIDE2-2 ctl UI^ pid F0 - 10.07.11 18:53:24
>> 091903zDX: VK3MY-4 37.51.54S 145.18.28E 1334.0km 210ø 19:20
>
>
>
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Rob,

Whilst I agree with your sentiments re those paths and, especially the long
outdated use of WIDE, I don't agree that those stations won't be gated to
the Internet as a check of aprs.fi will confirm .......

2011-07-10 18:59:17 UTC: 
VK4UN-4>GATE,WIDE,qAR,VK2TV-4:=2621.48S/15259.33E&HF GATEWAY {UIV32}
2011-07-10 19:11:06 UTC: 
VK4UN-4>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=2621.48S/15259.33E&HF GATEWAY {UIV32}
2011-07-10 19:29:18 UTC: 
VK4UN-4>GATE,WIDE,qAR,VK2TV-4:=2621.48S/15259.33E&HF GATEWAY {UIV32}
2011-07-10 19:29:35 UTC: 
VK4UN-4>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>061228zUI-View32 V2.03
2011-07-10 19:29:37 UTC: VK4UN-4>GATE,WIDE,qAR,VK2TV-4:>061228zUI-View32
V2.03
2011-07-10 19:29:45 UTC: 
VK4UN-4>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=2
2011-07-10 19:31:09 UTC: 
VK4UN-4>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=2621.48S/15259.33E&HF GATEWAY {UIV32}
2011-07-10 19:44:18 UTC: 
VK4UN-4>GATE,WIDE,qAR,VK2TV-4:=2621.48S/15259.33E&HF GATEWAY {UIV32}

I don't use any path here on my HF port ......

2011-07-09 20:25:00 UTC: 
VK2TV-4>APX200,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=3100.72S/15246.17E&Kempsey
HF/VHF/Satellite gateway

Regards,
Ray vk2tv
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