[OZAPRS] Digipeater Overlays in OZ

[Robert Bruninga]

> While on the subject.. What sort of overlay do you suggest 
> for a Ui-Digi that is capable of both old and new Paradigms ? 
> That is to say it still works with WIDE RELAY and has ZONE 
> or Section digipeating enabled but has no TRACE capability 
> at all ..

Thanks Tony,
I'd suggest giving it an "S" overlay, but then since all
digipeaers are supposed to include their capabilities in their
Beacon text, then I'd be sure to put it in this way:

W3,SSn,W,R.  But you insert the correct W@, or W3 for what is
receommended in that area, and change "SS" to whatever is your
local state, region or zone.  They are not limited to just two
bytes either, though that is what we use up here)..

Thanks
Bob, WB4APR.

 I found a page of yours with 
> overlays suggested
> > but theres no overlay for this situation.
> >
> > Tony Hunt  VK5AH wavetel at internode.on.net
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga at usna.edu>
> > To: "'Tony Hunt'" <wavetel at internode.on.net>; "'VK / ZL APRS
Users'"
> > <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:55 AM
> > Subject: RE: [OZAPRS] APRS on 30 metres HF (Robert Bruninga)
> >
> >
> > > Regarding the HF path recommendation of VIA GATE,WIDE1-1:
> > >
> > > > With the greatest of respect Bob I gotta say your a bit
> > > > off beam here if not misleading.  Telling us what to do
> > > > from over your way is way off sometimes.   The New
> > > > paradigm isnt implenented here as yet and saying things
like.
> > > >
> > > >> "(it used to be VIA GATE,WIDE, but the WIDE part
> > > >> of that is now obsolete and will not work)."
> > > >
> > > > Just isnt true.. Recomending anything with WIDE1-1 isnt
> > > > allways guaranteed to get very far either
> > >
> > > Are you saying that your area is a WIDE-only network that
does
> > > not even support WIDEn-N?  WIDE1-1 works everywhere
independent
> > > of whether New-N has been implemented or not, as long as
WIDEn-N
> > > works. WIDEn-N has been implemented since 1998 or so...
WIDE1-1
> > > is just a WIDEn-N with N=1.  If there are still some
WIDE-only
> > > locations that do not support WIDEn-N at all, then I think
it is
> > > probably time for those networks to consider the factor of
2 to
> > > 4 times QRM reduction available in WIDEn-N networks.
> > >
> > > The New-N Paradigm, is simply a recommended set of
settings for
> > > WIDEn-N networks to optimize their operations.  But even
if not
> > > implementd, WIDEn-N still works in those areas and so will
> > > WIDE1-1.  Even if 10% of the world is still WIDE-only,
then
> > > using WIDE1-1 will still give you a 90% better chance of
being
> > > heard than a WIDE-only packet if you propogate into those
other
> > > coutries.
> > >
> > > > That might all work nice for you but are we really
expecting
> > > > the Ionosphere to work that well that we can make
regular use
> > > > of your HF gates over there??
> > >
> > > Most of the APRS world, not just the USA supports WIDEn-N
> > > digipeating (hence WIDE1-1).
> > >
> > > > Maybe for the best solution to the question in VK land
have
> > > > a look at this web page which isnt all that dated.
> > > > http://www.aprs.net.au/hf_aprs_information.htm
> > >
> > > Sorry, I get a dead link when I try that from here..
> > >
> > > Bob, WB4APR
> > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:39:58 -0500
> > > > > From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga at usna.edu>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] APRS on 30 metres HF
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have tried several HF path variations like GATE,
> > > > > > WIDE and did not make it to www.findu.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is the correct path statement that should be
used?
> > > > >
> > > > > The path that has always been recommended since we
first
> > > > > began HF APRS on that freequency back in 1993, that
is,
> > > > > VIA GATE,WIDE1-1.  (it used to be VIA GATE,WIDE, but
the
> > > > > WIDE part of that is now obsolete and will not work).
> > > > > See the original HF.TXT file.  See the web page:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/gates.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Do not use ECHO.  The page explained above tells
why...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob, Wb4APR
> > >
> >
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