[OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm

[Dion Bramich]

VICn is support a very good idea.  How do you propose to control traffic  
across the strait?  I'm worried that through summer VK7RAA will be  
unusable at times as a result of WIDEn type traffic from Victoria  
saturating it.  Recently I had a screen full of Victorians gated by  
VK3VHF, all via VK7RAA.  What If we dont want to see all that?  With your

system, we have no choice.

Dion.
VK7YBI

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:28:35 +1100, Richard Hoskin <vk3jfk at amsat.org>  
wrote:

>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I tried to get some discussion happening some time ago on the admin list

> but
> it did not go very far so we assumed that most people were in agreement

> or
> did not care. You were one of the few contributors.
>
> If anyone wants to read about the 'New Paradigms' visit
> http://web.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs/fix14439.html
>
> The EU new-paradigm in VK3 will support the US new-paradigm and retain  
> RELAY
> and for a time WIDE. (The retention of WIDE is to reduce Operator  
> confusion
> and be backwards compatible with the 144.900Mhz system during cut-over.)

> So
> there is some cross compatibility. VK3 will support a maximum of 3 digi

> hops
> in the US form of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2 however WIDE3-3 will not be supported

> nor
> will VICn-N at this time.
>
> VK3 Digipeaters that have been converted to the new-paradigm will use an
> overlay symbol of L. Relay only station will use an overlay symbol of 1.
> They currently use E,T & R but this was an oversight.
>
> Cheers
> Richard
> VK3JFK
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
>> Behalf Of Scott & Clare Evans
>> Sent: Monday, 23 October 2006 6:16 PM
>> To: 'VK / ZL APRS Users'
>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm
>>
>>
>> What I find interesting is that there hasn't been any discussion as to

>> the
>> adoption of which one to go with! It appears VK3 have made that
decision
>> for
>> themselves! (Future discussion required me thinks!) The two systems
will
>> co-habitate
>>
>> Here in VK7 we have "Testing" the US version (since April) having
"WIDE"
>> traceable & limited to 3 hops (WIDE3-3)(TNC CMD UITRACE) and the use of
>> "TAS" unlimited up to TAS7-7 (TNC CMD UIFLOOD) with Dup checking set to

>> 9
>> seconds thus dropping the use of RELAY - WIDE - TRACE
>>
>> 73 de VK7HSE Scott Evans
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Townsend
>> Sent: Monday, 23 October 2006 6:32 PM
>> To: Ozaprs at aprs.net.au
>> Subject: [OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm
>>
>> Hello,
>> 1 - Can somebody please explain the basic difference between the two
>> standards.
>> 2 - Also from what I read RELAY is defunct and should not be used but  
>> this
>> appears not to be the case here in NSW.
>> 3 - If we have agreed on implimenting the EU version nationally has
>> anything
>> been done with the NSW Digis. If not surely it would not be that  
>> difficult
>> to organise the change over to the new paradigm.
>> Regards Mike VK2INT
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