[OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting +confusion....

[Dion Bramich]

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:05:10 +1100, Richard Hoskin <vk3jfk at amsat.org>  
wrote:

>
> Gday Dion,
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
>> Behalf Of Dion Bramich
>>
>> My situation is just that, I'm in the NW of the state. To get to the  
>> other
>> end, SE, I need 3 hops.  When the inversion is on, 3 hops will probably
>> get me into NSW also, but I dont want/need to be seen there.  With  
>> TAS3-3,
>> I can flood Tasmania and the Victorians will see nothing of me on their
>> digis via RF.  However without state or zone based routing, I havent
got
>> that ability..  It's just so simple, it cant not be a good thing!
>
> I think the VK3s would like to see the occasional VK7 beacon.

We can arrange for as many or as few beacons as youd like to see with
SSn..

> However we are
> a bit weary of mobiles that may have beacon rates set to excessive  
> levels eg
> more than one beacon per minute. Even with a path of TAS3-3 you will  
> still
> have an impact on some of VK3 Digipeaters, especially if your beacon  
> rate is
> high.
>

This is true, but less of an impact should the path be generic WIDE2-2.

>>
>> I wouldnt like to see Tasmania 'zoned'.  We dont need to, theres not so
>> many operators that it needs to be done, and with TAS3-3 we can be  
>> mobile
>> anywhere in the state and still be seen at home with no igating,  
>> ideally.
>> My view of the ultimate network in Tasmania is one in which everything
>> happens on RF, no gating from internet to RF apart from a select few of
>> interstate stations that locals are interested in here.  If ever local
>> traffic did increase substantially, we could split the state in half  
>> with
>> NTASn-N and STASn-N, but I dont envisage any problems in the
foreseeable
>> future.
>
> I think Tassie is in a unique situation. Being an island you will not
> experience the same cross border issues as the rest of us do.
>
>> However, whats suitable for other larger states needs to be looked at.

>> I
>> guess were lucky in that we dont have a huge number of operators that  
>> need
>
> Your right, Tassie needs are different to other states. So I'd suggest  
> that
> SSn-n may work for you but it would not work for VK3 or maybe VK5 etc.
>

Would you like to elaborate?  Why cant it work?  No states in the US are  
separated by water, this system was developed for use there and obviously

works well..

> In VK3 we have implemented a different 'Zone' system which I will talk  
> about
> later.
>

I think its these differences that need to be sorted, like the confused  
operator in the next message asks, which path will work?  If we could all

settle on one configuration, this confusion would be eliminated.  Mobiles

that stay close to home would/could use SS1-1,SS2-2.  Roaming mobiles  
would use WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2..  I think the US example is excellent, it  
simplifies everything.

Regards,
Dion.


> Cheers
> Richard
> VK3JFK
>
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