[OZAPRS] VK email server

Thu Apr 1 10:34:46 EST 2004

I have not been following this, but I would suggest an "Email"
message ending with the ">" characgter would tell the Email
engine to WAIT for additional lines.  When it finally receives
a message without a ">" at the end, then it can process all
lines received so far as one Email message...

Bob

>>> Darryl at radio-active.net.au 3/31/04 3:42:59 PM >>>
The simple way is not to have a continuation character, but an
indicator of
how many lines are to be included in the message. 

But that would only make sense if the client software on the RF side
where
you would be sending email from 
	a) handled the generation of the message
	b) Sent all the messages with consecutive sequence numbers.

The other option which does not violate the spec at all is to create a
message type in the 'U' area. I have done this for some software that I
am
writing to deal with GPRS mobile data terminals. 

...

Whilst we are on this subject, one of the things that I have toyed with
is
creating an IRC Server, which is connected to the iGATE system. People
can
use their IRC software to communicate with people on RF... and the
abstraction does work

Darryl

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-----Original Message-----
From: ozaprs-bounces at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au 
[mailto:ozaprs-bounces at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au] On Behalf Of Tony Hunt
Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2004 10:19 PM
To: vk5zty at bigpond.com; ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au 
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] VK email server

John.. I think your going to get into an awful mess trying to use a
continuation character.. As far as I know it cant be done on the
current
email servers.. Hey dont let me stop you but as you have noted there
are
some pitfalls..

Tony and Eva Hunt   wavetel at iname.com 

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williams" <vk5zty at bigpond.com>
To: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga at usna.edu>
Cc: <ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 20:37 PM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] VK email server

> The way I understand it is that aprs messages contain 0 - 67 chars
> in the message field.
>
> If your aprs client allows you to go beyond 67 chars then it places
the
additional text
> in another packet.
>
> The aprs email server would then need to know if the packet is a
continuation packet for the
> same email address or another message addressed to another email
address.
>
> I have not tried to send an email longer than the allowed length to
the
other servers. Do the
> current servers process such messages.
>
> Richard VK3JFK suggested the > char as an indication that more text
was to
follow.
>
> Aprs uses un-numbered info frames so the only possible way to
determine
packet sequence is
> via the ack field.  This is not necessarily numeric but if it is
lexigraphically sortable then this field
> can be used to assemble received packets in sequence.
>
> You need to consider that packets may not arrive in order.  Packets
might
be sent by other
> stations and seen by the server while you are still sending your
message
text.
>
> What I currently do is check that the first part of the message  is
an
attempt at a valid email
> address. If it is, grab it then the message text and send an ack to
the
sender. The email is then
> sent.
>
> Anything without a valid email address in the beginning of the
message is
rejected.
>
> Using a continuation character would then let the server know to
expect
more text.
> Then we would need an end of message sequence. FBB uses /ex but it
really
could be
> anything
> unique.
>
> I would be interested in any ideas of way around not using a
continuation
flag and end of
> message flag.  Given that you cant guarantee the arrival order of
packets
or the intention of the
> people sending messages.
>
> Cheers
> John
> VK5ZTY
>
>
> On 29 Mar 2004 at 12:34, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>
> > >>> "John Williams" <vk5zty at bigpond.com> 3/27/04 9:50:53 PM >>>
> > >
> > >I am testing an aprs email server...
> > >The aprs spec only allows 0 - 67 characters in the
> > >message field which includes the email  address.
> >
> > I would not object in this instance, since we know that
> > the first part of the Email Message is an EMAIL address,
> > and that part of the message, after being parsed out
> > and used for addressing, is no longer part of the "message"
> > content, therefore, that the next 67 bytes AFTER the email
> > address may be retained.
> >
> > Thats a messed up wordy sentence to ssay that these
> > might be the best rules for an Email ENgine:
> >
> > 1) If APRS message is less than 67 then use as is.
> > 2) If APRS message is longer than 67, then remove the
> >     email address from the body and send what's left
> > 3) If that is still more than 67 bytes, then truncate.
> >
> > BUT wait....  hummh... at this point, the message is
> > no longer on APRS anyway, but is in Email, so
> > why do we need to truncate it at all?
> >
> > de Wb4APR, Bob
> >
>
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