[OZAPRS] Rasbian

Norm McMillan vk3xci at gmail.com
Sun Jul 3 09:38:38 AEST 2016


New Thread...
I wonder if this thread has drifted far enough from the original Raspbian
thread to need a new one?

norm
vk3xci

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 8:45 AM, vk2tv <vk2tv at exemail.com.au> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> The flexibility of Linux often leads to numerous ways of achieving an end
> result. Below are my thoughts on repos. Others may disagree with me.
>
> On 02/07/16 22:31, Bob wrote:
>
> Yes Ray I stuffed that up, MATE is the GUI
>
> So many choices, but Mate is also my desktop of choice. I could never get
> used to Gnome having the task bar at the top.
>
>
> So what you are saying is, when I go looking for Ham Radio stuff to
> download I have to make sure I get it from the Mint repository.
>
> It's not set in concrete, but the safest way to get and install software
> is to get it from your distribution's repository for the particular release
> you have installed.
>
> Would my package manager or software manage ensure I get stuff from the
> right repository?
>
> What about when I use ~$ apt-get install xyz?  How will I know if I have
> the right repository?
>
> When a distro is installed the installation process includes the "right"
> (safe) repositories for that distro and, the list is stored in
> /etc/apt/sources.list (for Debian based systems). Package managers like
> dselect, aptitude, synaptic and apt-get all refer to /etc/apt/sources.list.
> You can add repositories from other sources but there is no guarantee you
> won't run into dependency issues. Another distro might modify a library,
> for example, and give it a different name. When that happens, your distro
> looks for the name it knows, and because it can't find it, spits a
> dependency error. I'm not saying it 'will' happen that way, only that it
> can.
>
> So Linux Mint is a distribution on its own and there is no guarantee that
> something which runs on Ubuntu will run on Mint?
> I've just been lucky so far.
>
> It depends on how much Mint has modified the Ubuntu packages, if at all in
> any particular case. If package A is available from Ubuntu there's a very
> good chance it's also available in Mint, and in that case it's preferable
> to get it from the Mint repo. In my experience the advantage that Mint
> offered over Ubuntu was the speed with which the former fixed software
> issues, but I don't know if that's still the case because I've long moved
> away from Mint and have gone back to pure Debian, using their Testing
> branch repos.
>
> My preference list would be ...
> 1. use the repo for your distro
> 2. use a third party repo but be aware there might be issues.
> 3. install from a third-party .deb file (if one exists; and there might be
> issues)
> 4. compile the software from sources, which is not as scary as it might at
> first appear to be but it might spit errors.
>
> However, for xastir, for example, for which a package is available, I
> always compile from the source code. It used to be that the packaged
> version was years out of date, but that is no longer the case, and I'm set
> in my ways!
>
>
> Linux is certainly more interesting than Winblows. Good exercise for the
> brain.
>
> The only time I reply on Windows these days is for Photoshop, because GIMP
> (on Linux) isn't quite there yet. My laptop is dual boot Windows/Linux but
> my desktop computer is Linux only. Linux is certainly a steep learning
> curve but it's worth the journey.
>
>
> On 02/07/16 16:18, vk2tv wrote:
>
> I'm aware of the 32bit issue and have only been downloading 32bit stuff.
> I wish there was an easy way to go to 64bit but I don't think there is
> much of a speed advantage for the stuff I do. Its never been an issue.
>
> You'd have to install a 64 bit version from scratch and then you could use
> both 32 and 64 bit libraries
>
> Ray vk2tv
>
>
> Thanks Ray, regards Bob vk2byf
>
> If you're running 32 bit Linux Mint on a 64 bit processor you can only run
> 32 bit debs, so mismatch there can't be an issue.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Ray vk2tv
>
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