[OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.

Tue Mar 8 21:18:19 EST 2011

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Andrew Rich

On 08/03/2011, at 19:52, "VK4UN" <vk4un at bigpond.com> wrote:

> So what's the fix, we can all paste what we see on raw data, has anyone tried to contact VK4FY, I have sent him a email but got no response
> 
> vk4un
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
> 
> 
>> Want some more ?
>> 
>> 2011-03-08 08:27:31 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:29:32 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:31:32 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:33:03 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 18CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:33:37 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RC-1,VK2RAP-3,WIDE2*,qAR,VK4HPW-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 18CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:35:05 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 18CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:35:34 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:37:36 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:39:04 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:39:37 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:41:37 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:41:37 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 18CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:43:13 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:47:42 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:49:43 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:51:44 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:53:44 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:55:04 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:55:48 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:57:30 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 08:59:51 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:01:52 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:03:53 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:05:33 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:07:55 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:09:00 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:09:55 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:11:19 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:11:56 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:13:59 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:15:58 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:17:57 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:20:00 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:21:21 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:22:01 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:24:01 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:26:02 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:28:03 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:30:05 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:31:22 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:32:05 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:34:06 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:34:37 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:36:07 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:38:12 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:39:39 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:42:09 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:43:15 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:44:10 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 2011-03-08 09:45:40 UTC: VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Gatward" <geoff-lists at gatwards.org>
>> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
>> 
>> 
>>> Looks like it's a UI-View plugin that's been written as a 'good idea' to
>>> turn APRS into a BBS network... (UI-Store and Forward) ???   In VK,
>>> VK4FY-2 is running this software, and this is where all the traffic is
>>> originating from.
>>> 
>>> A quick search on aprs.fi for  MAIL_FOR  shows a few stations globally
>>> running the same software, and interestingly they all have the same
>>> problem with their raw posits - not sure exactly what is wrong, but
>>> SOMETHING is pretty wrong with the plugin as it's sending garbage
>>> packets into the network.
>>> 
>>> At a minimum VK4FY-2 should change the frequency of these beacons to
>>> maybe once per hour rather than every 5 minutes as seems to be currently
>>> configured.....
>>> 
>>> Jut took a look at the duplicate packet logs on first and
>>> second.aprs.net.au and they are chokkas with of this stuff.
>>> 
>>> Geoff
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 17:32 +0930, Geoff Gatward wrote:
>>>> I'd be questioning what these NETACTIVE and MAIL_FOR objects are, and
>>>> who is sending them.
>>>> 
>>>> The string on the end of the NETACTIVE beacon is a list of weather
>>>> warnings sent out by WXSVR-AU - but why whoever NETACTIVE is is picking
>>>> them up and spamming the APRS stream with rubbish is beyond me....
>>>> 
>>>> Looking back through the posts on this subject all teh bad packets
>>>> appear to be from some automatic system that is injecting stuff that is
>>>> completely irrellevant into the stream.
>>>> 
>>>> MAIL_FOR
>>>> NETACTIVE
>>>> STORE_FWD
>>>> 
>>>> APRS is not a BBS system - someone out there is trying to use it as
>>>> one....
>>>> 
>>>> Geoff
>>>> VK2XJG/VK8GG
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 01:11 +0000, Peter Wicklein wrote:
>>>> > Steve and all...
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes I get the similar thing from aprs.fi using UIview as an Igate and
>>>> > viewing raw packets.. see below
>>>> >
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:05:44 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:08:40 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
>>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:15:17 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX > Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:15:30 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=6
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:20:29 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO > for S&F
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:22:56 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO > for S&F
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:35 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
>>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:40 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
>>>> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:44 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:39:39 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
>>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:16 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX > Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:28 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=5
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:37 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
>>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:43 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
>>>> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:45 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E
>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:50:30 UTC:
>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO > for S&F
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > See the mail_for says its moving at 500KM in red .... same as
>>>> > netactive ... but the location is the same...
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> >
>>>> > Peter
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:59:04 +1100
>>>> > > From: steven at nami.com.au
>>>> > > To: ozaprs at aprs.net.au
>>>> > > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Refer to this blog entry from Hessu re timing problems on aprs.fi.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > http://blog.aprs.fi/2008/03/on-duplicate-and-delayed-packets.html
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Could this also be causing your problems?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Regards
>>>> > > Steven VK2BOS
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On 08/03/11 08:41, Gordon Taylor wrote:
>>>> > > > Come on experts, I raised this a few days ago. What is going on, a
>>>> > fixed
>>>> > > > location exceeding 500kmh?????
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I drove to Brisbane and back yesterday (VK4VP-7) and had heaps of
>>>> > the
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