[OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.

VK4UN vk4un at bigpond.com
Tue Mar 8 20:52:41 EST 2011 

So what's the fix, we can all paste what we see on raw data, has anyone 
tried to contact VK4FY, I have sent him a email but got no response

vk4un

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.


> Want some more ?
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Geoff Gatward" <geoff-lists at gatwards.org>
> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
>
>
>> Looks like it's a UI-View plugin that's been written as a 'good idea' to
>> turn APRS into a BBS network... (UI-Store and Forward) ???   In VK,
>> VK4FY-2 is running this software, and this is where all the traffic is
>> originating from.
>>
>> A quick search on aprs.fi for  MAIL_FOR  shows a few stations globally
>> running the same software, and interestingly they all have the same
>> problem with their raw posits - not sure exactly what is wrong, but
>> SOMETHING is pretty wrong with the plugin as it's sending garbage
>> packets into the network.
>>
>> At a minimum VK4FY-2 should change the frequency of these beacons to
>> maybe once per hour rather than every 5 minutes as seems to be currently
>> configured.....
>>
>> Jut took a look at the duplicate packet logs on first and
>> second.aprs.net.au and they are chokkas with of this stuff.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 17:32 +0930, Geoff Gatward wrote:
>>> I'd be questioning what these NETACTIVE and MAIL_FOR objects are, and
>>> who is sending them.
>>>
>>> The string on the end of the NETACTIVE beacon is a list of weather
>>> warnings sent out by WXSVR-AU - but why whoever NETACTIVE is is picking
>>> them up and spamming the APRS stream with rubbish is beyond me....
>>>
>>> Looking back through the posts on this subject all teh bad packets
>>> appear to be from some automatic system that is injecting stuff that is
>>> completely irrellevant into the stream.
>>>
>>> MAIL_FOR
>>> NETACTIVE
>>> STORE_FWD
>>>
>>> APRS is not a BBS system - someone out there is trying to use it as
>>> one....
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>> VK2XJG/VK8GG
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 01:11 +0000, Peter Wicklein wrote:
>>> > Steve and all...
>>> >
>>> > Yes I get the similar thing from aprs.fi using UIview as an Igate and
>>> > viewing raw packets.. see below
>>> >
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:05:44 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW 
>>> > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:08:40 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:15:17 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX 
>>> > Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:15:30 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=6
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:20:29 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO 
>>> > for S&F
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:22:56 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO 
>>> > for S&F
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:35 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:40 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
>>> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:44 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW 
>>> > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:39:39 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:16 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX 
>>> > Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:28 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=5
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:37 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:43 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
>>> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:45 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW 
>>> > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E
>>> > 2011-03-08 00:50:30 UTC:
>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw&  B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO 
>>> > for S&F
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > See the mail_for says its moving at 500KM in red .... same as
>>> > netactive ... but the location is the same...
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Peter
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:59:04 +1100
>>> > > From: steven at nami.com.au
>>> > > To: ozaprs at aprs.net.au
>>> > > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
>>> > >
>>> > > Refer to this blog entry from Hessu re timing problems on aprs.fi.
>>> > >
>>> > > http://blog.aprs.fi/2008/03/on-duplicate-and-delayed-packets.html
>>> > >
>>> > > Could this also be causing your problems?
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards
>>> > > Steven VK2BOS
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On 08/03/11 08:41, Gordon Taylor wrote:
>>> > > > Come on experts, I raised this a few days ago. What is going on, a
>>> > fixed
>>> > > > location exceeding 500kmh?????
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I drove to Brisbane and back yesterday (VK4VP-7) and had heaps of
>>> > the
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