[OZAPRS] Reverse Gate HF ( Was Help with port 14580 )
Olsen's Tours and Training
davejust at bigpond.net.au
Sun Jan 16 08:36:03 EST 2011
Ian
I understand, but it isn't such a big deal for me. If you see VK4MDX-15 and it is out of date due to not operating HF for some time, you know to look for me on VHF as you did. Doesn't seem a big problem to me.
I am off to Mt Isa on Sunday hence HF running again. I put the radio and TT4 in the car last night to test it.
David
VK4MDX
On 16/01/2011, at 7:25 AM, Ian Bennett wrote:
> David,
> I guess you turned on your HF not long ago as it shows you back home.
> Until recently (3 mins ago) , your HF icon showed you out around Isa way
> and your VHF showed you at home (242 days, 11 hours).
> This is why I do what I do; one vehicle, one icon, one callsign, one
> location, no confusion.
>
> Ian
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 15th, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>
>> Are you bogged ?
>>
>> You HF shows you outside ISA since sep 2010
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Olsen's Tours and Training" <davejust at bigpond.net.au>
>> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Reverse Gate HF ( Was Help with port 14580 )
>>
>>
>>> I have both VHF and UHF in my 4WD and run remote area tours.
>>> I send a link to the people who wish to follow me, one is configured to
>>
>>> show aprs.fi with filter -15 the other with -9.
>>> I tell them one is for remote and one for not remote
>>> At home I have an icon for each on the desktop do the wife can click on
>>
>>> them at her leisure
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> VK4MDX
>>>
>>> On 15/01/2011, at 12:08 PM, VK4UN wrote:
>>>
>>>> ?Understand Ian, All makes sense now
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Bennett" <ibennett at tpg.com.au>
>>>> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:00 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Reverse Gate HF ( Was Help with port 14580 )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>> I go 4Wding a bit and I have a number of non-amateur friends and
>>>>> relatives
>>>>> who track our progress.
>>>>> If I went by the recommendations, they would have to track two SSID's
>> as
>>>>> the
>>>>> -9 would "stop" when I ran out of VHF range. A similar thing could
>> occur
>>>>> if
>>>>> they were watching -15.
>>>>> There would be two icons reporting different positions for the same
>>>>> vehicle/unit; very bad.
>>>>> Being ex-Army, "track correlation" means everything to me. It is for
>>
>>>>> this
>>>>> reason I have both TTs configured with -9. This means only one SSID to
>>
>>>>> track
>>>>> and my current position is displayed; irregardless of how that posit
>>>>> made it
>>>>> into the system.
>>>>> For those few who are interested in knowing how a posit got into the
>>>>> system, they will know to look at the path.
>>>>> So why do I run HF and VHF?? HF is the only option when I'm away.
>> When
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> within VHF coverage, I use that because there is more capacity and it
>>
>>>>> leaves
>>>>> the limited HF resources for those that need it.
>>>>> I use the same callsign for voice regardless on what band I'm
>> operating
>>>>> on
>>>>> so why should APRS be any different??
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>> VK1IAN-9
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 15th, 2011 at 10:34 AM, VK4UN <vk4un at bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Hi Ian, I am running both VHF and HF in the one Vehicle at the same
>>
>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VHF with a 710 Kenwood and a IC706 with a Tiny Track on HF and works
>>
>>>>>> fine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't understand why you would be seen in 2 different locations if
>> you
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the same GPS??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73's
>>>>>> David VK4UN
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Bennett"
>> <ibennett at tpg.com.au>
>>>>>> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Reverse Gate HF ( Was Help with port 14580 )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would be me. I run VHF and HF in the same vehicle. Which one
>> is
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> determined by my location; I sometimes have both going when in the
>>>>>> fringe
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> VHF coverage.
>>>>>>> If I ran two SSIDs, there would be two icons for the same vehicle
>> in
>>>>>>> different locations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>> VK1IAN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 15th, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Ray Wells
>> <vk2tv at exemail.com.au>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To complicate matters further, not all travellers use -15 on HF.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ray vk2tv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 15/01/11 09:44, Phillip wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Gordo,
>>>>>>>>> The ( * ) will only function with VK*
>> or
>>>>>> ZL*
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> there is no SSID filter ( -15 ) but in saying this if you want
>> to
>>>>>> pass
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> -15
>>>>>>>>> HF mobiles then it may be time to educate these mobile stations
>> to
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> correct symbol as there is a symbol filter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> s/-> This will pass all House and Car
>>>>>>>>> symbols
>>>>>>>>> (primary
>> table)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you only have HF or is this a mixed Igate ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Below is the URL for the filter commands
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.aprs2.net/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FilterGuide
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It maybe time to ask Roger for a SSID Filter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 73 Phillip
>>>>>>>>> ZL2TZE
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Gordon Taylor
>>>>>>>>> To: 'Australian APRS Users'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Was Help with port 14580 - now another
>> quiz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Next question.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I want to reverse gate HF travellers out to VHF I.e VK*-15
>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> this with UI-View.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't set the Igate.ini to reverse gate VK*-15 (just doesn't
>>>>>>>>> work)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> can't use a * as the first character I.e *-15 so that is out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think there is a filter command to use with port 14580
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> just bring in the VK*-15 traffic enabling me to reverse gate
>> VK*
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> only be the VK*-15 traffic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any ideas learned ones?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Gordo VK4VP
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