[OZAPRS] Reverse Gate HF ( Was Help with port 14580 )

Andrew Rich vk4tec at tech-software.net
Sat Jan 15 13:37:59 EST 2011


Are you bogged ?

You HF shows you outside ISA since sep 2010


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Olsen's Tours and Training" <davejust at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Reverse Gate HF ( Was Help with port 14580 )


>I have both VHF and UHF in my 4WD and run remote area tours.
> I send a link to the people who wish to follow me, one is configured to 
> show aprs.fi with filter -15 the other with -9.
> I tell them one is for remote and one for not remote
> At home I have an icon for each on the desktop do the wife can click on 
> them at her leisure
>
> David
>
> VK4MDX
>
> On 15/01/2011, at 12:08 PM, VK4UN wrote:
>
>> ?Understand Ian, All makes sense now
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Bennett" <ibennett at tpg.com.au>
>> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Reverse Gate HF ( Was Help with port 14580 )
>>
>>
>>> David,
>>>  I go 4Wding a bit and I have a number of non-amateur friends and 
>>> relatives
>>> who track our progress.
>>> If I went by the recommendations, they would have to track two SSID's as 
>>> the
>>> -9 would "stop" when I ran out of VHF range. A similar thing could occur 
>>> if
>>> they were watching -15.
>>>  There would be two icons reporting different positions for the same
>>> vehicle/unit; very bad.
>>>  Being ex-Army, "track correlation" means everything to me. It is for 
>>> this
>>> reason I have both TTs configured with -9. This means only one SSID to 
>>> track
>>> and my current position is displayed; irregardless of how that posit 
>>> made it
>>> into the system.
>>>  For those few who are interested in knowing how a posit got into the
>>> system, they will know to look at the path.
>>>  So why do I run HF and VHF?? HF is the only option when I'm away. When 
>>> I'm
>>> within VHF coverage, I use that because there is more capacity and it 
>>> leaves
>>> the limited HF resources for those that need it.
>>>  I use the same callsign for voice regardless on what band I'm operating 
>>> on
>>> so why should APRS be any different??
>>>
>>> Ian
>>> VK1IAN-9
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 15th, 2011 at 10:34 AM, VK4UN <vk4un at bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ?Hi Ian, I am running both VHF and HF in the one Vehicle at the same 
>>>> time,
>>>>
>>>> VHF with a 710 Kenwood and a IC706 with a Tiny Track on HF and works 
>>>> fine
>>>>
>>>> Don't understand why you would be seen in 2 different locations if you 
>>>> use
>>>>
>>>> the same GPS??
>>>>
>>>> 73's
>>>> David  VK4UN
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Bennett" <ibennett at tpg.com.au>
>>>> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Reverse Gate HF ( Was Help with port 14580 )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > That would be me. I run VHF and HF in the same vehicle. Which one is 
>>>> > on
>>>> is
>>>> > determined by my location; I sometimes have both going when in the
>>>> fringe
>>>> > of
>>>> > VHF coverage.
>>>> > If I ran two SSIDs, there would be two icons for the same vehicle in
>>>> > different locations.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ian
>>>> > VK1IAN
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Jan 15th, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Ray Wells <vk2tv at exemail.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> To complicate matters further, not all travellers use -15 on HF.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Ray vk2tv
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 15/01/11 09:44, Phillip wrote:
>>>> >> > Hi Gordo,
>>>> >> >                        The (  *  ) will only function with VK*  or
>>>> ZL*
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> > there is no SSID filter  ( -15 ) but in saying this if you want to
>>>> pass
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> > -15
>>>> >> > HF mobiles then it may be time to educate these mobile stations to
>>>> use
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> > correct symbol as there is a symbol filter.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >                s/->        This will pass all House and Car 
>>>> >> > symbols
>>>> >> >                                                  (primary table)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Do you only have HF or is this a mixed Igate  ?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Below is the URL for the filter commands
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > http://www.aprs2.net/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FilterGuide
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > It maybe time to ask Roger for a SSID Filter
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > 73 Phillip
>>>> >> > ZL2TZE
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > From: Gordon Taylor
>>>> >> > To: 'Australian APRS Users'
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:22 PM
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Was Help with port 14580 - now another quiz
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Next question.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If I want to reverse gate HF travellers out to VHF I.e VK*-15 how 
>>>> >> >  >> > can
>>>> I
>>>> >> do
>>>> >> > this with UI-View.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I can't set the Igate.ini to reverse gate VK*-15 (just doesn't 
>>>> >> > work)
>>>>
>>>> >> > and
>>>> >> you
>>>> >> > can't use a * as the first character I.e *-15 so that is out.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I don't think there is a filter command to use with port 14580 
>>>> >> > that
>>>> >> will
>>>> >> > just bring in the VK*-15 traffic enabling me to reverse gate VK*
>>>> which
>>>> >> would
>>>> >> > only be the VK*-15 traffic.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Any ideas learned ones?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Regards,
>>>> >> > Gordo VK4VP
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