[OZAPRS] HF APRS

Ray Wells vk2tv at exemail.com.au
Mon Mar 30 16:25:57 EST 2009


Philip,

My 20m rig is beaconing every 15 minutes on 14096.600 USB (1600/1800Hz 
tones)

Ray vk2tv

Phillip wrote:
> Hi Ray,
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>                    I'm willing to give it ago I have TS 140 and a G5RV East
> / West and another Nth / Sth  using AGWPRO.
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> So some testing would be appreciated I am around after 5pm NZT I have a RX
> on 14,100.5 LSB now  
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> have a look at the bottom of this page it may help
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> http://zlhams.wikidot.com/aprsinfrastructure:infrastructure
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> 73 Phillip
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> APRS HF Net Wednesday 19.30 Hrs NZT  3.650.00 +/- QRM
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> -------Original Message-------
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> From: Ray Wells
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> Date: 30/03/2009 11:50:29 a.m.
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> To: Australian APRS Users
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> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] HF APRS
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> In the apparent absence of a reference station, I have my 20m Igate on
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> 14105.1 (according to my TS430) and I use 1600/1800Hz tones.
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> Would somebody like to confirm if this is the preferred frequency, and
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> if it isn't, what should I use. I chose the frequency based on the
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> one-time existence of a vk6 on that frequency. It has been previously
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> been suggested that we should consider the more-international 20m
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> frequency (which I can't find right now, but it's not too far away from
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> where I currently sit). The use of an international frequency would
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> overcome one of David's gripes about 20m - not enough stations.
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> BTW, Robert, my dipole is at 45' and looks favourably towards ZL.
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> Let's debate the 20m frequency issue and come up with a standard.
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> Ray vk2tv
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> Robert Thirkettle wrote:
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>> Hi David if we have a ZL 20M HF Gateway that hole is filled in. In ZL we
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>> have a propagation issue if 40M is unworkable that is what we have at
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>> present then no ZL HF solution will work that's why we then only have a
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>> via VK option.
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>> I used mobile 40M APRS in 2001 for a trip around the lower south Island
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>> it worked well for paths over 200Km but that time was much closer to the
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>> top of the sun spot cycle than now yesterday Gareth was struggling to
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>> make a 600Km path work.
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>> If VK and ZL want to make use of each others HF gateways then we need to
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>> use a frequency that works 7MHz only works at dawn and dusk 10MHz also
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>> only works for 1 or 2 more hours than 7MHz but 14MHz will work for most
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>> of the daylight hours as well as giving a east coast VK to west coast VK
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>> path.
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>> I also do agree that a mix of 40M 30M and 20M gate ways will give the
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>> greatest coverage.
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>> I am working tonight to get my gateway up and going again.
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>> Regards Rob Thirkettle ZL3RX
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>> Dept  Physics & Astronomy
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>> University of Canterbury
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>> Private Bag 4800,
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>> Christchurch 8020,
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>> New Zealand
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>> Tel: +64 3 364 2510
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>> Fax: +64 3 364 2469
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>> mailto:rob.thirkettle at canterbury.ac.nz
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
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>> Behalf Of David and Justine Olsen
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>> Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2009 12:27 p.m.
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>> To: Australian APRS Users
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>> Subject: [OZAPRS] Frequencies for Peoppel Corner and Central Australia
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>> Ray is correct. My push or 40m (not just for me) is because standard
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>> calls can't use 30m. 30m is ideal for the desert trips, but
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>> unfortunately I and other standard calls can't use it.
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>> What I am suggesting is that my observations and predictions show 20m
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>> though better for data, does not provide coverage. The skip (dead)
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>> zone covers most of Australia at most times of day from Central
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>> Australia.
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>> Therefore what I am advocating is more igates on 40m because it
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>> provides a logical second choice to 30m, 20m being my third choice
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>> for the reasons metioned above.
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>> More igates on more frequencies though is the ideal in my view.
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>> David
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>> VK4MDX
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