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Sun Aug 23 09:03:27 EST 2009
Brisbane, just under 600km. There is no vhf coverage for aprs, although
there is vhf voice about 80% of the trip which is more than the mobile
phone coverage, from 15km south of here until well into the northern
suburbs of Brisbane. The trip wpuld not be considered to the remote
areas.
So hf sounds like a good idea.
The amount of current traffic heard here is so small that dx stations are
a non-issue for now.
BTW, did you see the travels yesterday of Frank, vk4cau-9? It is the first
time we have had an aprs equipped vehicle travel along the road from
Biloela to Monto. There was good coverage until almost at Monto using the
normal packet network here in CQ. Frank was using a dm700.
Cheers
Ron
vk4ags
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian <mailto:bbeamish at bigpond.net.au> Beamish
To: Vk3jfk at Amsat. Org ; OZAPRS <mailto:ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au>
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:07 PM
Subject: [OZAPRS] FW: DX or Local which is more important?
Hi If you received this message twice I apologise but not realising it
until a few minutes ago I have had a ISP problem most od the day all
incoming mail arriving okay whilst I am unsure as to how much it would
appear that all my out going mail has not made it.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Beamish [mailto:bbeamish at bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2004 4:56 PM
To: vk3jfk at amsat.org; ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au
Subject: DX or Local which is more important?
Hi Noel and Others
I personally could not agree more with Richard if there is to much
concentration on working DX APRS instead of local as was and still should
be the intent of APRS I can see some of us being forced eventually to
working on an alternate frequency to cater for those, like myself for
example, who intended eventually to be doing some "Outback" touring.
Great to see the occasional DX station there but surely as the mode grows
particularly on HF our aim should be to cater both for VK and ZL
travellers alike.
B C N U
Brian VK4BBS
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Hi Noel,
It is good to see that the HF Gate systems are working well.
We must keep in mind however the main purpose and original requirement
for the APRS HF Gate network is to provide good reliable Local (VK/ZL)
APRS communications to mobile vehicles in our area which our out of range
of VHF APRS. If there is too much ‘DX’ then it will reduce the efficiency
of the HF APRS network and may discourage locals from going APRS HF
Mobile.
There’s a lot of the Ozzie Outback to be covered.
Cheers
Richard
VK3JFK
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From: ozaprs-bounces at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au
[mailto:ozaprs-bounces at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au] On Behalf Of Noel Rowe
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2004 9:44 AM
To: zlaprs at mail.nzart.org.nz; ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au
Subject: [OZAPRS] Heard on 30m.
Add to our ever growing heard list the following, copied here in ZL
overnight:
IK2VPD - name Max, QTH Milan.
What I decoded was several parts of an APRS message or query. It was
direct off 30m HF.
Noel, ZL3GR.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Brian and all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am fully supportive of providing =
coverage to=20
remote areas.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From time to time I drive the major =
highway between=20
here in Central Qld to Brisbane, just under 600km. There is no vhf =
coverage for=20
aprs, although there is vhf voice about 80% of the trip which is more =
than the=20
mobile phone coverage, from 15km south of here until well into the =
northern=20
suburbs of Brisbane. The trip wpuld not be considered to the =
remote=20
areas.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So hf sounds like a =
good idea.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The amount of current traffic heard =
here is so=20
small that dx stations are a non-issue for now.</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTW, did you see the travels yesterday =
of Frank,=20
vk4cau-9? It is the first time we have had an aprs equipped vehicle =
travel along=20
the road from Biloela to Monto. There was good coverage until almost at =
Monto=20
using the normal packet network here in CQ. Frank was using a=20
dm700.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ron</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>vk4ags</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dbbeamish at bigpond.net.au =
href=3D"mailto:bbeamish at bigpond.net.au">Brian=20
Beamish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dvk3jfk at amsat.org =
href=3D"mailto:Vk3jfk at Amsat. Org">Vk3jfk at Amsat. Org</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au=20
href=3D"mailto:ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au">OZAPRS</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 17 April 2004 =
20:07=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [OZAPRS] FW: DX or =
Local which=20
is more important?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D788395309-17042004>Hi=20
If you received this message twice I apologise but not realising it =
until a=20
few minutes ago I have had a ISP problem most od the day all =
incoming=20
mail arriving okay whilst I am unsure as to how much it would appear =
that all=20
my out going mail has not made it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D788395309-17042004>Brian</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D788395309-17042004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Brian Beamish=20
[mailto:bbeamish at bigpond.net.au]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 17 April =
2004 4:56=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:vk3jfk at amsat.org">vk3jfk at amsat.org</A>; <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au">ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au=
</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
DX or Local which is more important?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
class=3D772364606-17042004>Hi Noel and Others</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
class=3D772364606-17042004>I personally could not agree more with =
Richard if=20
there is to much concentration on working DX APRS instead of =
local as was=20
and still should be the intent of APRS I can see some of us =
being=20
forced eventually to working on an alternate frequency to cater for =
those,=20
like myself for example, who intended eventually to be doing some =
"Outback"=20
touring.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
class=3D772364606-17042004>Great to see the occasional DX station =
there but=20
surely as the mode grows particularly on HF our aim should be to cater =
both=20
for VK and ZL travellers alike.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
class=3D772364606-17042004>B C N U</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
class=3D772364606-17042004>Brian VK4BBS</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
=
class=3D772364606-17042004>----------------------------------------------=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi=20
Noel,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is good =
to see=20
that the HF Gate systems are working =
well.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We must =
keep in mind=20
however the main purpose and original requirement for the APRS HF Gate =
network=20
is to provide good reliable Local (VK/ZL) APRS communications to =
mobile=20
vehicles in our area which our out of range of VHF APRS. If there is =
too much=20
‘DX’ then it will reduce the efficiency of the HF APRS =
network and may=20
discourage locals from going APRS HF =
Mobile.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">There’s a lot of the=20
Ozzie Outback to be covered.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Cheers<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Richard<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">VK3JFK<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Noel =
Rowe<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, 17 April 2004 =
9:44=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
zlaprs at mail.nzart.org.nz; ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [OZAPRS] Heard on=20
30m.</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Add to our ever growing heard list the=20
following, copied here in ZL=20
overnight:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">IK2VPD - name =
Max, =20
QTH Milan.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What I decoded was several parts of an =
APRS=20
message or query. It was direct off 30m=20
HF.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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ZL3GR.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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