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disadvantages out way the advantages.

Cheers
Richard
VK3JFK

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;If the freq change takes place we =
are=20
prepared to do our bit for VK2RO-1&nbsp; AT Tocumwal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards Daryl&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>VK3KLN</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dlhoskin at bigpond.com =
href=3D"mailto:lhoskin at bigpond.com">Richard=20
  Hoskin</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au">ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 15, =
2003 4:22=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OZAPRS] Pros and =
Cons of=20
  changing VK3's APRS frequency</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Hi=20
  Ron,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Thanks for your=20
  comments.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; This change =
would=20
  make the management of the 145.175 interesting to=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; say the =
least.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Currently the VK5 network is =
heard=20
  locally from time <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; <SPAN=20
  class=3DGramE>to</SPAN> time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I think it would =
make VHF=20
  APRS communications very challenging when conditions where good for =
VHF DX.=20
  This could create channel traffic overload for many of the Wide Area=20
  Digipeaters.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&gt;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; Plans in NW =
Vic are=20
  to get relay <SPAN class=3DSpellE>digis</SPAN> at <SPAN=20
  class=3DSpellE>Ouyen</SPAN> and <SPAN class=3DSpellE>Robinvale</SPAN>, =
and=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; <SPAN=20
  class=3DGramE>later</SPAN>, one to the west on the=20
  </SPAN></FONT><st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN class=3DSpellE><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">Sturt</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">=20
  Hwy</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><FONT face=3D"Courier New" =

size=3D2> =
and north on=20
 <st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Silver City=20
 Hwy.</st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">That's great to =
hear plans=20
 for increasing the coverage in the =
<st1:State><st1:place><FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">north=20
 west</st1:place></st1:State> =
of the=20
 state. One suggestion is to make the Digi at Ouyen a=20
 WIDE Area Digi. You may find that one at Robinvale=20
 need only be a Relay Digi to get into the Wide at <SPAN=20
 class=3DSpellE>Ouyen.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; I wonder =
how many=20
 others do run the above, and therefore need 2 sets=20
 <o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; <SPAN=20
 class=3DGramE>of Xtals.&nbsp; =

Everyone in VK that wants to use FM828 I=20
 suspect.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I don=92t =
believe there are=20
 too many mobile 828's these days. Most people I know off around here =
are=20
 running VFO or PROM based radios for VHF APRS if they don=92t run a =
D700 or=20
 D7AG.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&gt;<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; I'm happy =
to=20
 contribute $100 as well as help where I =
can.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&gt;<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Thanks for your=20
 contribution. Pledges now total $675<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Interestingly =
only 2 VK3=20
 amateurs have pledged money to this project. All other pledges have =
come from=20
 interstate.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&gt;<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; There are =
only 2=20
 (please correct me if I'm wrong VK3RPG-2 and =
<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; VK3RMG-1) =
<SPAN=20
 class=3DSpellE>Licenced Digpeaters =
that need to=20
 be changed that are <o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; =
managed/owned by=20
 groups. All the other Digipeaters and Igates are=20
 <o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; <SPAN=20
 class=3DSpellE>licenced to (and funded by, I'd suspect) private =
hams. The=20
 $2500 cost <o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; <SPAN=20
 class=3DGramE>you quoted may be for the whole of VK3 network, =
but I don't=20
 think that <o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; <SPAN=20
 class=3DGramE>anywhere near that needs to be funded. I'd think =
most of=20
 VK3 hams <o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; would =
happily fund=20
 and convert their own equipment to 145.175 when the=20
 <o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; <SPAN=20
 class=3DGramE>change were to take =
place.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&gt;<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Equipment for =
all VK3 APRS=20
 Digipeaters (except the transceiver and TNC of VK3RPG-2) was obtained =
by a few=20
 dedicated individuals through fundraising at local Ham Fests as well =
as=20
 donations from a few other very generous people. All <SPAN=20
 class=3DGramE>whom wanted to see the development and expansion =
of the VK3=20
 APRS network. These same few dedicated individuals have spent <SPAN=20
 class=3DGramE>may hours finding sites, building and installing=20
 digipeaters.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I believe that =
it should=20
 not be left up to these same people to put in additional effort and =
money to=20
 change what they already have supported. It is time for others to =
contribute=20
 to the APRS network if the change in frequency is to take=20
 effect.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Seven temporary =
test VK3=20
 Digipeaters not located at amateurs home QTHs are in=20
 the process of being licensed. The Digipeaters were temporarily =
installed at=20
 sites to test site coverage. If the coverage is acceptable the =
temporary <SPAN=20
 class=3DSpellE>digis are licensed as permanent hill top =
repeaters. The=20
 local operator may not necessarily finance any part of the digipeater=20
 installation.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; There would =
be pain=20
 in VK3 as the change to place now, but more pain =
<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; <SPAN=20
 class=3DGramE>if it is left to a later =
date.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I agree but to =
<SPAN=20
 class=3DGramE>effect the change finances must be raised and =
labor must be=20
 sort.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; I believe =
that the=20
 advantages outway the disadvantages to =
have VK3 on=20
 <o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&gt; <SPAN=20
 class=3DGramE>the National APRS =
frequency.<o:p></o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">From a social =
view=20
 yes.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"> Technically and =

  economically however I believe the disadvantages out way the=20
  advantages.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
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