[OZAPRS] HF APRS
Ray Wells
vk2tv at exemail.com.au
Tue Dec 30 17:21:03 EST 2008
We're never to old to learn something, but I do look in the mirror
occasionally and wonder about that :-)
Ray vk2tv
Gordon Taylor wrote:
> Yep, makes sense to me as well, I will reprogram my TT3 so next time it gets
> used it is set correctly.
>
> Regards,
> Gordo VK4VP
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
> Behalf Of Ray Wells
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2008 4:09 PM
> To: Australian APRS Users
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] HF APRS
>
> Geoff,
>
> You have confirmed my thoughts re WIDE2-1.
>
> Is it reasonable then to assume that a HF Igate (not a HF/VHF gateway)
> has no need to add WIDE2-1?
>
> Ray vk2tv
>
> Geoff wrote:
>
>> Correct - the reason for the WIDE2-1 in the path is not for HF use, but in
>> the cases where the HF Gateway is just that - HF to VHF (not to Internet).
>>
>> The path to be used on the VHF portion of the hop is defined by the HF
>> mobile station.... The HF Gateway responds to the GATE part, and sends
>> the posit out to VHF using the WIDE2-1 portion - and hopefully an IGate
>> hears this :-)
>>
>> Geoff VK2XJG
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
>> Behalf Of Richard
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2008 4:41 PM
>> To: Australian APRS Users
>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] HF APRS
>>
>>
>> Hi Gordon,
>>
>> I have to update the documentation.
>>
>> The part should be set to APRS via GATE,WIDE2-1
>>
>> Ray, the main Net Gateway will need to send out beacons at a similar
>> rate to VK4MY-4 on 30mtrs. It would also be a help to station if the
>> Gateway had the ECHO path active for operators to tune in their stations.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Richard
>> VK3JFK
>>
>> Gordon Taylor wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ray,
>>> You may well be right, as there are no digi's on HF, so what would
>>> be the need for WIDE.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Gordo VK4VP
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
>>> Behalf Of Ray Wells
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2008 3:14 PM
>>> To: Australian APRS Users
>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] HF APRS
>>>
>>> I know the Australian documentation still says GATE, WIDE but given that
>>> WIDE has been deprecated I would question its use. I've read elsewhere
>>> of using just GATE but I can't recall where.
>>>
>>> I only use GATE on 30m and I think that is sufficient given that mobiles
>>> on HF only need a single hop to get to a gateway.
>>>
>>> If my thinking is flawed I'll be happy to take advice :-)
>>>
>>> Ray vk2tv
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gordon Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think the path should be GATE,WIDE.
>>>>
>>>> That’s what I have used all the time on 30m.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gordo VK4VP
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
>>>> Behalf Of Peter Bye
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2008 2:09 PM
>>>> To: 'Australian APRS Users'
>>>> Subject: RE: [OZAPRS] HF APRS
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much for that Ray.
>>>> I will pass on to David that you have done this, and to set his path to
>>>> APRS,GATE... Will be interesting to see how he goes. BTW he is a VK4
>>>>
>>>>
>> just
>>
>>
>>>> waiting for his new callsign. Probably will be VK4MDX
>>>>
>>>> Cheers and 73
>>>>
>>>> Pete
>>>> VK2MPJ
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
>>>> Behalf Of Ray Wells
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:58
>>>> To: Australian APRS Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] HF APRS
>>>>
>>>> My TS430 is now on 14105.09khz USB and I have configured another port in
>>>>
>
>
>>>> xastir. My path is GATE.
>>>>
>>>> I'll monitor the channel as much as I can in the hope that I can hear
>>>> some traffic to net to.
>>>>
>>>> Ray vk2tv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ray Wells wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Richard Hoskin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ray,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're welcome to put something on 20mtrs or 40 mtrs. The frequencies
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> there. I don't know if VK6BBS is still running on 20mtrs or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have had Gates on 20mtrs and 40 mtrs before but found them to be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> less
>>
>>
>>>>>> successful / popular due to noise and propagation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 30mtrs definitely the most reliable and works best for those who can
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>> VK3JFK
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pete,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't answer the question re vk6bbs but I could put a port of 20m
>>>>>>>
> if
>
>>>>>>> it was to be of any value. I currently have a 20m port for the bbs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> that
>>
>>
>>>>>>> carries no traffic so moving that tx to aprs wouldn't affect any
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> packet
>>
>>
>>>>>>> stations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the opinion of the group? Pete raises a good point re licence
>>>>>>> classes so a HF port they can use might be beneficial.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ray vk2tv
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>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> I run a bbs on 40m so that band is out of the question here. 20m,
>>>>> however, is essentially not used for bbs traffic so I'm happy to move
>>>>> the radio to aprs. The radio is a TS430 running around 40W to a dipole
>>>>> at 45'.
>>>>>
>>>>> The antenna favours 120/300° which takes a line roughly through Alice
>>>>> Springs, Halls Creek and Derby in one direction, and ZL in the
>>>>> opposite direction.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard, do you have the preferred USB suppressed carier frequency for
>>>>> 1600/1800Hz tones handy?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray ... vk2tv
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