[OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm and path limiting.

Fri Oct 27 09:27:28 EST 2006

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Ben Lindner
VK5JFK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Lindner" <vk5jfk at activ8.net.au>
To: "VK / ZL APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm and path limiting.

> Its a pity that we have to change things that really are not broken,
just
> because a few people cant get it right or wont listen.
>
> This might seem a strange question, but why do we have to change? The US

> and
> EU have a far larger population of Hams than we will ever dream of in
our
> life time.
>
> Ben Lindner
> VK5JFK
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Townsend" <tasit at unwired.com.au>
> To: <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:29 PM
> Subject: [OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm and path limiting.
>
>
>> If I'm not mistaken from what can be found on the net concerning
>> recommended APRS paths in EU at the moment is that they look the same
as
>> the US recommended paths.
>>
>> How about  looking 100% forward instead of spending half our time
looking
>> back.
>>
>> With VK3 moving to 145.175MHz here is a good example of what is on the
>> way
>> concerning congestion if  WIDEn-n paths are not limited at the Digis.
If
>> you look at this log you can see that VK7JJ north of Launceston has
been
>> I-Gated by VK7 as far south as Hobart and north into VK3 and even
VK1.So
>> what comes this way can certianly go the other. Here in Sydney I see
>> mobiles that beacon every 30 seconds regardless of their speed.One even
>> sitting in a carpark for hours on end at this beacon rate with a path
of
>> RELAY,WIDE3-3.
>>
>> Is there anyone that can pass on contact details for the APRS digi
>> maintainers here in NSW.
>>
>> 2006-10-25 14:02:12 START UTC
>> 2006-10-25 14:02:12
>> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
>> `K`el 
v/"4C}
>> 2006-10-25 15:51:38
>> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
>> `K`el 
v/"4<}
>> 2006-10-25 16:01:35
>> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
>> `K`dl 
v/"4:}
>> 2006-10-25 16:11:34
>> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
>> `K`el 
v/"4J}
>> 2006-10-25 17:31:08
>> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W7,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
>> `K`el 
v/"4!}
>> 2006-10-25 18:00:58
>> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
>> `K`el 
v/"49}
>> 2006-10-25 18:20:51
>> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
>> `K`el 
v/"4;}
>> 2006-10-25 18:50:43
>> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
>> `K`gl 
v/"4P}
>> 2006-10-25 19:10:35 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VK1KCM-9 <UI>:
>> `K`dl 
v/"46}
>> 2006-10-25 20:10:16 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VK1KCM-9 <UI>:
>> `K`dl 
v/"4C}
>> 2006-10-25 21:28:38 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"4>}
>> 2006-10-25 21:48:33 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`dl ]v/"46}
>> 2006-10-25 21:58:31
>> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"4@}
>> 2006-10-25 22:18:23 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"4;}
>> 2006-10-25 23:08:06 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W9,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`dl ]v/"4@}
>> 2006-10-25 23:28:00 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`dl ]v/"4%}
>> 2006-10-25 23:57:50 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"4H}
>> 2006-10-26 00:17:44 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"46}
>> 2006-10-26 00:27:40 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"46}
>> 2006-10-26 00:37:38 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7YBI*,WIDE2-1,qAo,VK7DC
<UI>:
>> `K`dl ]v/"48}
>> 2006-10-26 00:47:36 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7YBI*,WIDE2-1,qAo,VK7DC
<UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"4A}
>> 2006-10-26 00:57:31 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"47}
>> 2006-10-26 01:07:28 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"46}
>> 2006-10-26 01:17:24 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`el ]v/"4<}
>> 2006-10-26 01:27:22 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7YBI*,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4K}
>> 2006-10-26 01:37:19 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7YBI*,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4@}
>> 2006-10-26 02:07:08 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4<}
>> 2006-10-26 02:27:02 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4I}
>> 2006-10-26 02:36:58 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4A}
>> 2006-10-26 02:46:55 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`fl#(v/"4I}
>> 2006-10-26 02:56:52 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4?}
>> 2006-10-26 03:06:49 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W7,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`fl#(v/"4D}
>> 2006-10-26 03:16:46 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4I}
>> 2006-10-26 03:36:39 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"44}
>> 2006-10-26 03:46:36 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4;}
>> 2006-10-26 03:56:33 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4C}
>> 2006-10-26 04:06:29 VK7JJ-9>TQP0X0,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
>> `K``l#(v/"2J}
>> 2006-10-26 04:26:23 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"42}
>> 2006-10-26 04:36:20 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"4.}
>> 2006-10-26 04:46:17 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"4,}
>> 2006-10-26 05:06:10 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"4:}
>> 2006-10-26 05:36:02 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W7,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"48}
>> 2006-10-26 05:46:01 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"4;}
>> 2006-10-26 06:45:42 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"4N}
>> 2006-10-26 06:55:38 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4f}
>> 2006-10-26 07:05:33 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"4J}
>> 2006-10-26 07:25:33 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`gl#(v/"4k}
>> 2006-10-26 07:55:16 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4E}
>> 2006-10-26 08:15:13 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"4;}
>> 2006-10-26 08:25:07 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4?}
>> 2006-10-26 08:35:06 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`dl#(v/"46}
>> 2006-10-26 08:45:02 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4=}
>> 2006-10-26 08:54:58 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"4G}
>> 2006-10-26 09:25:06 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
>> `K`el#(v/"49}
>>
>>
>> Mike, VK2INT
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