[OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm and path limiting.

Fri Oct 27 09:09:54 EST 2006

Also improving Digi hardware would help... Look at the uSmartDigi that
goes
with the TNC-X. It is an amazing piece of software and can solve all
manner
of sins

Darryk

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-----Original Message-----
From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
Behalf Of Ben Lindner
Sent: Friday, 27 October 2006 9:05 AM
To: VK / ZL APRS Users
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm and path limiting.

Its a pity that we have to change things that really are not broken, just
because a few people cant get it right or wont listen.

This might seem a strange question, but why do we have to change? The US
and

EU have a far larger population of Hams than we will ever dream of in our
life time.

Ben Lindner
VK5JFK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Townsend" <tasit at unwired.com.au>
To: <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: [OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm and path limiting.

> If I'm not mistaken from what can be found on the net concerning
> recommended APRS paths in EU at the moment is that they look the same as

> the US recommended paths.
>
> How about  looking 100% forward instead of spending half our time
looking
> back.
>
> With VK3 moving to 145.175MHz here is a good example of what is on the
way

> concerning congestion if  WIDEn-n paths are not limited at the Digis. If

> you look at this log you can see that VK7JJ north of Launceston has been

> I-Gated by VK7 as far south as Hobart and north into VK3 and even VK1.So

> what comes this way can certianly go the other. Here in Sydney I see
> mobiles that beacon every 30 seconds regardless of their speed.One even
> sitting in a carpark for hours on end at this beacon rate with a path of

> RELAY,WIDE3-3.
>
> Is there anyone that can pass on contact details for the APRS digi
> maintainers here in NSW.
>
> 2006-10-25 14:02:12 START UTC
> 2006-10-25 14:02:12
> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
> `K`el 
v/"4C}
> 2006-10-25 15:51:38
> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
> `K`el 
v/"4<}
> 2006-10-25 16:01:35
> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
> `K`dl 
v/"4:}
> 2006-10-25 16:11:34
> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
> `K`el 
v/"4J}
> 2006-10-25 17:31:08
> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W7,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
> `K`el 
v/"4!}
> 2006-10-25 18:00:58
> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
> `K`el 
v/"49}
> 2006-10-25 18:20:51
> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
> `K`el 
v/"4;}
> 2006-10-25 18:50:43
> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
> `K`gl 
v/"4P}
> 2006-10-25 19:10:35 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VK1KCM-9 <UI>:
> `K`dl 
v/"46}
> 2006-10-25 20:10:16 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VK1KCM-9 <UI>:
> `K`dl 
v/"4C}
> 2006-10-25 21:28:38 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"4>}
> 2006-10-25 21:48:33 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`dl ]v/"46}
> 2006-10-25 21:58:31
> VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7RHT,VK7RAD,WIDE2*,qAo,VK7HDM-12 <UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"4@}
> 2006-10-25 22:18:23 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"4;}
> 2006-10-25 23:08:06 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W9,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`dl ]v/"4@}
> 2006-10-25 23:28:00 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`dl ]v/"4%}
> 2006-10-25 23:57:50 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"4H}
> 2006-10-26 00:17:44 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"46}
> 2006-10-26 00:27:40 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"46}
> 2006-10-26 00:37:38 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7YBI*,WIDE2-1,qAo,VK7DC
<UI>:
> `K`dl ]v/"48}
> 2006-10-26 00:47:36 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7YBI*,WIDE2-1,qAo,VK7DC
<UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"4A}
> 2006-10-26 00:57:31 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"47}
> 2006-10-26 01:07:28 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"46}
> 2006-10-26 01:17:24 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`el ]v/"4<}
> 2006-10-26 01:27:22 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7YBI*,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4K}
> 2006-10-26 01:37:19 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA,VK7YBI*,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4@}
> 2006-10-26 02:07:08 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4<}
> 2006-10-26 02:27:02 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4I}
> 2006-10-26 02:36:58 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4A}
> 2006-10-26 02:46:55 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`fl#(v/"4I}
> 2006-10-26 02:56:52 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4?}
> 2006-10-26 03:06:49 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W7,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`fl#(v/"4D}
> 2006-10-26 03:16:46 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4I}
> 2006-10-26 03:36:39 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"44}
> 2006-10-26 03:46:36 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4;}
> 2006-10-26 03:56:33 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4C}
> 2006-10-26 04:06:29 VK7JJ-9>TQP0X0,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK3VHF-1 <UI>:
> `K``l#(v/"2J}
> 2006-10-26 04:26:23 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"42}
> 2006-10-26 04:36:20 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"4.}
> 2006-10-26 04:46:17 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"4,}
> 2006-10-26 05:06:10 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"4:}
> 2006-10-26 05:36:02 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W7,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"48}
> 2006-10-26 05:46:01 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"4;}
> 2006-10-26 06:45:42 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"4N}
> 2006-10-26 06:55:38 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4f}
> 2006-10-26 07:05:33 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"4J}
> 2006-10-26 07:25:33 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`gl#(v/"4k}
> 2006-10-26 07:55:16 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4E}
> 2006-10-26 08:15:13 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"4;}
> 2006-10-26 08:25:07 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4?}
> 2006-10-26 08:35:06 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`dl#(v/"46}
> 2006-10-26 08:45:02 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4=}
> 2006-10-26 08:54:58 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"4G}
> 2006-10-26 09:25:06 VK7JJ-9>TQP0W8,VK7RAA*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VK7DC <UI>:
> `K`el#(v/"49}
>
>
> Mike, VK2INT
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