[OZAPRS] Dupe Problem ??

[vk7arn]

G'day Tony

You've missed one of the primary points.  You may have noticed one of the
threads on this issue has "+confusion" on the end of the subject line.
I'll go
out where I came in.  As a relative newcomer to APRS, I find information
and
guidance on APRS to be inconsistent, conflicting and confusing.  Most of
the
information available to a new user is on the net.  The net is
international,
often suffers a lack of maintenance and commonly includes material
produced by
well intentioned souls with little skill in writing instructional
material. A
universal solution is desirable if only to minimise the mess.

It's been really interesting watching a bunch of techos discuss this
issue.  I
don't know much about APRS, I just want to use it effectively, expand the
coverage and encourage others to do the same.  I'd suggest that desirable
attributes of any system are simplicity, consistency and universality.

Cheers
Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
Behalf
Of Tony Hunt
Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:18
To: OZ-APRS Mial-list
Subject: [OZAPRS] Dupe Problem ??


Just reading these threads on WIDE1-1 and RELAY one would be led to
beleive we
have a massive problem with Dupes in VK because of the massive
shortcommings of
all the digis in the network.. I keep reading this time and time again as
a
argument to getting rid of RELAY..

This was certainly the case in the USA and hence they used WIDE1-1 as a
replacment for RELAY. The Network consisted predominantly of KPC3 TNCs
with
their odd querks that are not really compliant although they do have nice
features..

In Australia this is not the same. Leading us to beleive we have a Dupe
problem
here with RELAY is I beleive, false.. The Ui-Digis do not have this
issue..
Neither does Ui-View or Xastir if used as a Digi and neither does a TNC2
clone
if its used as a Dumb digi with MYAlias set as RELAY ..

Changing from RELAY to WIDE1-1 will not change any Dupe problem in the
truly
heavy traffic areas to my understanding..

What is really going on in Western Sydney that the Network is Broken ??
When Ive
been to VK2 in certain areas there is an excess amount of Internet traffic
being
gated to RF.. This is the real killer of the network if you are not
careful..

Tell us where there are all these fleets of KPC3 digis with all the
traffic on
them ?? And all the fleets of vehicals driving around them using RELAY for
that
matter ??

If your car had lots of nice features like a great stereo and mini bar and
was
rocket propelled to boot would you just put up with it and say it was
still
acceptable if it back fired everytime you put your foot down a bit.. No
you
would rather drive a Joe average car and forget the rocket rubbish if it
was
guaranteed to come with backfiring features.. I know I would..


Tony Hunt VK5AH


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