[OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting +confusion....

Tue Nov 7 21:38:09 EST 2006

Hi Chris,

You're correct. The only time a home station is setup as a WIDE1-1 Fill-in
digi is to fill a definite RF black spot were mobiles can not be heard by
the local Wide digi. 

Some co-ordination would need to take place with the Fill-in WIDE1-1 home
station to obtain the best results for the RF network.

Apologies if I wasn't clear about this.

Cheers
Richard
VK3JFK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
> Behalf Of Chris Hill
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 7:59 PM
> To: 'VK / ZL APRS Users'
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting
> +confusion....
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Won't a main digi also TX on WIDE1-1?
> 
> It seems to me that in general, it would be undesirable to have home
> stations acting as WIDE1-1 digipeaters...  they should only act in this
> role
> on the network edge, or where there is a definite blackspot.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On
> Behalf Of Richard Hoskin
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 3:45 PM
> To: 'VK / ZL APRS Users'
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting
> +confusion....
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> WIDE1-1 gives you the ability to utilise Fill-In digipeaters or RELAY
only
> home stations in the old jargon, when a local area is in an RF black
spot
> for the Wide / Main digi.
> 
> Cheers
> Richard
> VK3JFK
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au]
On
> > Behalf Of Chris Hill
> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 5:45 PM
> > To: 'VK / ZL APRS Users'
> > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting
> > +confusion....
> >
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Is there an advantage to having a path of "WIDE1-1, WIDE2-2", instead
of
> > "WIDE3-3"?
> >
> > I would have thought that the slightly shorter packet (approx 10%
> shorter)
> > would be preferable, as it has a slightly better chance of being
decoded
> > error free at the first digipeater (and hence accessing the network).
> >
> > Am I missing something, or is "APRS v WIDE1-1, WIDE2-2" a carry over
> from
> > the old paradigm?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris
> > vk6kch
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au]
On
> > Behalf Of Andrew McDade
> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 2:36 PM
> > To: VK / ZL APRS Users
> > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting
> > +confusion....
> >
> > Gday Dion,
> >
> > As per you previous email , transient / mobile aprs users would use
the
> > WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2 generic National config.. Whereas home stations,
> > digipeaters, special nets, non -interstate ( inter-zone) mobile users
> > could
> > perhaps use the ZONEn-n config. So getting on the boat shouldn't cause
> too
> > much grief for the would-be interstate traveler !!.  In fact most
> > trackers,
> > D700's D7's etc etc. all have at least two configs that can be setup,
So
> > users could possibly utilize a local zonen-n config and an interstate
> > travel
> >
> > config being wide1-1,wide2-2 within their tracker etc.
> >
> > Regards .. Andrew .. VK5EX
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dion Bramich" <vk7ybi at yahoo.com.au>
> > To: "VK / ZL APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting
> > +confusion....
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:58:34 +1100, Andrew McDade
> > <amcdade at iprimus.com.au>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Gday Richard and all,
> > >>
> > >>> Zoning would make more sense. We use a different implementation of
> > Zones
> > >>> in
> > >>> VK3 already
> > >>
> > >> Noting your comment above. I think that we should be trying to
> > >> standardize
> > >> on one form or another of a zoning system that will best suit the
> whole
> > >> of
> > >> Australia. You could say that each region / zone is independent,
and
> so
> > >> it
> > >> doesn't really matter which way this is setup. However it would be
> nice
> > >> from
> > >> a documentation and new user setup point of view, if a standard set
> of
> > >> guidelines is developed with regards to this.
> > >
> > > Nicer, eg, if someone down here could get on the boat, drive and be
> seen
> > > without the need for him to take all his documentation to learn how
to
> > > reprogram, and his laptop to do the programming?
> > >
> > >>
> > >> BTW... perhaps you could tell us more about the Vic zoning
> > >> implementation.
> > >> Perhaps , it'll suit the rest of us as well !!.
> > >
> > > Dion.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Regards .. Andrew
> > >>
> > >>
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