[OZAPRS] European v US new paradigmand pathlimiting +confusion....

Dion Bramich vk7ybi at yahoo.com.au
Thu Nov 2 13:46:03 EST 2006

Zone or state based routing needs to be implemented, it should be  
mandatory.  We are using it here, its excellent.  There will be no near  
border confsuion, it'll solve problems.  It could indeed be taken out  
further to major population areas, it allows so much more control over the

network than other systems proposed.  I really do believe its easier to  
understand than the old RELAY WIDE TRACE arrangement, newcomers would pick

it up quicker.


On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:41:59 +1100, Ron Perry <ronk at sunlinux.com.au>

> On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 09:32 +1030, Andrew McDade wrote:
>> Gday all,
>> What are the requirements with regards to the number of path hops we  
>> would
>> require Nationally. I would see this being a bit of a comprise so as to
>> maintain a standard.
>> There is talk about a maximum of two hops .. i.e.. using WIDE2-2 for  
>> home
>> stations and perhaps WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 for mobiles.  Will this suffice  
>> for all
>> of Australia or do we look at 3 hops WIDE3-3 for home stations and
>> WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2 for mobiles.
>> Points taken regarding Not utilizing SSn-n , as Ron mentions, this
>> certainly be a problem for networks close to state borders etc.
>> What about a zone or region based system used in conjunction with the
>> generic WIDEn-n system. If we want to cellularize the network, if
>> this is what we want to do, then probably the best way to do it would  
>> be to
>> use a zone or region based system. ie.. Utilize the first 4 letters of

>> the
>> major centre containing the regions Igate. ie. ADEL3-3, MILD3-3,  
>> MELB3-3,
>> HOBA3-3 etc etc. Home stations , digipeaters and mobiles that don't
>> frequently travel out of the region would ( could ) utilize the path
>> ZONE3-3. Mobiles and portable stations that are traveling nation wide  
>> could
>> use the generic path of WIDE3-3 or WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2. New aprs users,
>> utilizing information gleaned from the net etc. would probably utilize
>> WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2 or WIDE3-3 which would work anywhere  all of the time.

>> The
>> zonen-n based paths could be gradually implemented within each region  
>> and
>> would probably be utilized initially by more established aprs users.
> Maybe the Zone based system could also be not "mandatory", and
> implemented as time and regional activity needed.
>> Its something to have a think about anyway
> Well worth thinking about.  I like it.
> And the bike (VK3ECV-9) will be out and about from Friday until Tuesday.
> Marlene and I are spending 4 nights at Mt Beauty.
> Regards,
> Ron
> vk3ecv
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