aprs.net.au DNS swapover
Richard Hoskin
vk3jfk at amsat.org
Thu Aug 19 18:45:37 EST 2004
Geoff,
Your idea is good as it will get rid of the confusion.
Yep the uneducated recon its not a URL unless it's got WWW at the
beginning.
I've had this argument a few times.
Gents,
I was in contact with the people who are running the ???.aprs2.net system.
They where wondering if we wanted to join? Any thoughts? See Below;
Cheers
Richard.
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I have been aware of your two servers down there since before Tier 2. I
have always wanted to incorporate your servers into the network, but had
been hesitant to ask until we became well-established. Looking at your
port
list, there are only two ports that concern me - 10154 and 10155. On
every
Tier 2 server around the world, 10154 provides a US feed and 10155
provides
a Europe feed. Port standardization was one of the top priorities of the
establishment of the Tier 2 network, but I had realized that your server
had
been up for quite a long time, and wasn't sure you wanted to make changes
like that. Between your two servers, there are currently at this moment
about 35 clients connected that would be affected if you made the changes.
Would you be willing to make those changes and contact each client to
inform
them of the move? If so, then there is absolutely no problem!
According to your port list on the servers, here's what it would look like
in Tier 2 standards:
1314 - Messaging Only Port
2323 - WX Feed (currently your 10160)
10151 - Full Feed w/ history dump
10152 - Full Feed no echo
10153 - VK/ZL Feed w/ history dump (if desired)
10154 - USA Feed
10155 - Europe Feed
10158 - IRLP Status
10160 - ARISS/PCSat Feed (currently your 10155)
14578 - ZL Only APRS Feed (currently your 10154)
14579 - VK/ZL APRS Feed (currently your 10153)
14580 - User-Defined Filter Feed
Please study this list and the feasability of making the changes to your
servers. I understand that it is a bit of a hassle to do that to users,
and
to have to contact them one by one, but it has been successfully done
across
the globe with the other servers. I hope you understand why port
standardization is so important to us - in fact, one other reason we have
it
set up that was is we are looking at a rotate.aprs2.net type address for
certain applications. Having the ports standardized will allow roll-over
between the servers without worrying about the ports being different. The
standard is catching on - even servers who do not wish to become part of
the
network are using this port scheme. If you are unable or unwilling to
change ports, maybe we can talk about some other options. Please let me
know what you think!
Server names, following the Tier 2 format, would be APRSVK and APRSVK2,
and
the domain names could either be australia.aprs2.net, australia2.aprs2.net
or sydney.aprs2.net or any combination. We try to keep the domain names
regional in identity, so as to help users know where to find their
specialized feeds.
Enjoy! Let me know what you think.
73
Phil - AD6NH
http://www.aprs2.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff [mailto:ggatward at iinet.net.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2004 6:11 PM
> To: Darryl Smith; 'Damien Gardner Jnr'
> Cc: 'Richard Hoskins'
> Subject: RE: aprs.net.au DNS swapover
>
> Sorry I didn't reply to all this sooner, been pretty busy :-P
>
> (Thanks guys for changing the hosts over - looks fine now)
>
> To clarify what is hosted where now,
> 203.17.15.167 hosts only one javAPRSsrvr application
(third.aprs.net.au)
> 203.220.0.74 hosts only one javAPRSsrvr application (aprs.net.au)
> 210.193.156.78 hosts only one javAPRSsrvr application
(second.aprs.net.au)
> 203.194.26.237 hosts only the web pages (all of them)
> MX goes to radio-active.net.au
>
> The confusion seems to be between "aprs.net.au" and "www.aprs.net.au".
> Perhaps to avoid confusion next time we should change aprs.net.au to
> FIRST.aprs.net.au (following the same standard as the core)
>
> If we introduced this as a CNAME record for a few months and get people
> used
> to using it, we could phase out aprs.net.au, or better still alias it
via
> CNAME to www.aprs.net.au. This way all the web sites are 'standard' and
> work
> both with and without the www prefix.
>
> What are your thoughts on this one??
>
> I'm still miffed by everyone who 'assumes' that a web site must start
with
> www, but then........
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
>
>
> --
> Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)
>
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "Darryl Smith" <Darryl at radio-active.net.au>
> To: "'Damien Gardner Jnr'" <rendrag at rendrag.net>, "'Geoff'"
> <ggatward at iinet.net.au>
> Cc: "'Richard Hoskins'" <vk3jfk at amsat.org>
> Sent: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:22:05 +1000
> Subject: RE: aprs.net.au DNS swapover
>
> > Thanks. Hopefully it is fixed
> >
> > Darryl
> >
> > ---------
> > Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia
> > Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International]
> > www.radio-active.net.au\blog\ - www.radio-active.net.au\web\tracking
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Damien Gardner Jnr [mailto:rendrag at rendrag.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2004 11:17 AM
> > To: Darryl Smith; 'Geoff'
> > Cc: 'Richard Hoskins'
> > Subject: Re: aprs.net.au DNS swapover
> >
> > G'day Darryl,
> >
> > There's currently no MX records for aprs.net.au ?
> >
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;aprs.net.au. IN MX
> >
> > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> > aprs.net.au. 8640 IN SOA box3n.gumbynet.org.
> > darryl.radio-active.net.au. 2860754820 10800 3600 60480 8640
> >
> > AHHH, look in your hosts file, you'll see you've actually got the MX
> > entry on localhost.aprs.net.au - if you dont have a hostname before
> > an IN entry, it uses the last one entered.. - so either move the MX
> > back up below the SOA record, or put an @ at the start of the MX
> > line :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Damien
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darryl Smith" <Darryl at radio-active.net.au>
> > To: "'Geoff'" <ggatward at iinet.net.au>
> > Cc: "'Damien Gardner'" <rendrag at rendrag.net>; "'Richard Hoskins'"
> > <vk3jfk at amsat.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:02 AM
> > Subject: RE: aprs.net.au DNS swapover
> >
> > > Can someone have a look at the DNS entries for APRS.NET.AU
> > >
> > > The MX domain should send email to radio-active.net.au but it is not
> > working
> > > for this guy... Well, he got the email wrong, but ignore that...
> > >
> > > Darryl
> > >
> > > Message from yahoo.com.
> > > Unable to deliver message to the following address(es).
> > >
> > > <ui-view at aprs.net.au>:
> > > 203.220.0.74 does not like recipient.
> > > Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 <ui-view at aprs.net.au>... Relaying denied
> > > Giving up on 203.220.0.74.
> > >
> > > --- Original message follows.
> > >
> > > Return-Path: <poida_3429 at yahoo.com>
> > > Message-ID: <20040819004013.4963.qmail at web12404.mail.yahoo.com>
> > > Received: from [138.194.37.102] by web12404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP;
> > > Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:40:13 PDT
> > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:40:13 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Peter Watkins <poida_3429 at yahoo.com>
> > > To: ui-view at aprs.net.au
> > >
> > > ---------
> > > Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia
> > > Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International]
> > > www.radio-active.net.au\blog\ - www.radio-active.net.au\web\tracking
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geoff [mailto:ggatward at iinet.net.au]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2004 8:02 AM
> > > To: Darryl Smith
> > > Cc: 'Damien Gardner'; 'Richard Hoskins'
> > > Subject: RE: aprs.net.au DNS swapover
> > >
> > > Darryl,
> > >
> > > Not quite right....
> > > Looks like you swapped third.aprs.net and all the web pages
> > > (vk2.aprs.net.au, www.aprs.net etc)
> > >
> > > Could you please check:
> > >
> > > aprs.net.au should now be 203.220.0.74
> > > third.aprs.net.au should now be 203.17.15.167
> > > *.aprs.net.au should still be 203.194.26.237
> > >
> > > Currenly aprs.net.au resolves to its original address
(203.17.15.167)
> > > and third.aprs.net.au resolves to the aprs web server
(203.194.26.237)
> > > The web pages all now resolve to third.aprs.net.au address
> (203.220.0.74)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Geoff
> > >
> > > --
> > > Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > From: "Darryl Smith" <Darryl at radio-active.net.au>
> > > To: "'Geoff'" <ggatward at iinet.net.au>
> > > Cc: "'Damien Gardner'" <rendrag at rendrag.net>, "'Richard Hoskins'"
> > > <vk3jfk at amsat.org>
> > > Sent: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:27:10 +1000
> > > Subject: RE: aprs.net.au DNS swapover
> > >
> > > > Done
> > > >
> > > > Darryl
> > > >
> > > > ---------
> > > > Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia
> > > > Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International]
> > > > www.radio-active.net.au\blog\ -
www.radio-active.net.au\web\tracking
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geoff [mailto:ggatward at iinet.net.au]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 2004 5:23 PM
> > > > To: Darryl Smith
> > > > Cc: Damien Gardner; Richard Hoskins
> > > > Subject: aprs.net.au DNS swapover
> > > >
> > > > Darryl,
> > > >
> > > > Could you please swap the addresses of aprs.net.au and
> > > > third.aprs.net.au in the DNS?
> > > > (i.e. THIRD will become 203.17.15.167 and FIRST will become
> > > > 203.220.0.74)
> > > >
> > > > We will be pulling out the box that is currently aprs.net.au for
an
> > > overhaul
> > > >
> > > > (final effort to find the bloody problem!), and the current
'third'
> > > > box has been behaving as it should, so its ready to take over.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Geoff
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)
> > > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > >
> > >
> ------- End of Original Message -------
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