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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Unless there is a new policy; My search of the auda.org.au website shows the referenced policy had an approval date of 1/7/2018 and is still current.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I had this problem with them a little while back.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>There is a conflict between the domain registrars (Mine is Domain Registration Services) interpretation of the domain organisations rules and the requirements of the Australia Charities and Not for Profit commission.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>That is, the Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission does not require all Not for profits to be registered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have a Not for Profit radio club that has 2 members.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It’s purpose is solely to operate Amateur repeaters and associated infrastructure and has a .org.au website.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We have adopted the Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission model constitution.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Under the Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission, such a not for profit does not need to be registered as we have no income and no liabilities, we are fully funded by our members.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I provided the constitution to the registrar and they rejected be cause I didn’t have a ACNC number.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I argued and got stroppy with them until they agreed to submit the application to the domain name people, but assured me it would be rejected.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Next day I got advised it was approved and my domain was renewed for another 5 years.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Below is what I sent them;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have carefully read the referenced document 2012-04- Domain Name Eligibility and Allocation Policy Rules for the Open 2LDs and can see no reason for the re-registration to be rejected.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I sight the following provisions;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#00B0F0;background:white'>1.3</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#00B0F0;background:white'> The policy rules set out in this document do not have retrospective effect. Domain name licences that were granted before implementation of this policy will be ‘grandfathered’ and the registrant will be entitled to renew the licence provided that there has been no change in the registrant's circumstances that affects their eligibility to hold the domain name licence. For example, if the registrant of a com.au domain name no longer holds the registered business name that they used as a basis for licensing the domain name in the first place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#475761;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#475761;background:white'>This clause in the rules makes it clear that these rules are NOT retrospective and any <b>“Domain name licences that were granted before implementation of this policy will be ‘grandfathered’ and the registrant will be entitled to renew the licence provided that there has been no change in the registrant's circumstances that affects their eligibility to hold the domain name licence”</b>. There has been no change in the circumstances of our club since we were originally registered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#475761;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SCHEDULE F<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ELIGIBILITY AND ALLOCATION RULES FOR ORG.AU<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The org.au 2LD is for non-commercial organisations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The following rules are to be read in conjunction with the Eligibility and Allocation Rules for All Open 2LDs, contained in Schedule A of this document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>1. To be eligible in the org.au 2LD, registrants must be non-commercial organisations as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>a) an association incorporated in any Australian State or Territory; or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>b) a political party registered with the Australian Electoral Commission; or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>c) a trade union or other organisation registered under the Fair Work (Registered Organisations) Act 2009; or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>d) a sporting or special interest club operating in Australia; or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>e) a charity operating in Australia, as defined in the registrant’s constitution or other documents of incorporation; or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>f) a non-profit organisation operating in Australia, as defined in the registrant’s constitution or other documents of incorporation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>2. Domain names in the org.au 2LD must be:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>a) an exact match, abbreviation or acronym of the registrant’s name; or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>b) otherwise closely and substantially connected to the registrant, in accordance with the categories of “close and substantial connection” set out in the Guidelines on the Interpretation of Policy Rules for the Open 2LDs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B0F0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>All the clauses in Schedule F are “or”, that is to say we only need to comply with any one of these clauses.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Our club qualifies under “d) a sporting or special interest club operating in Australia; or” our club qualifies as a “special interest club”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nowhere in the rules does it require the club to be registered or incorporated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We have provided a copy of our constitution, the only document required by Australian Law for an Unincorporated Association.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If this registration is not processed and approved, can you please advise me of either;<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Your appeals and/or complaints procedures, or is this something I need to pursue through the auDA complaints procedure.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>How to transfer ALL my domain registrations to another registrar<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards,<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='color:green'>Peter Chaplin</span></i></b><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:green'><a href="mailto:peter@chaplin.net.au"><b><i><span style='color:blue'>peter@chaplin.net.au</span></i></b></a></span><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='color:green'>VK3AJ</span></i></b><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></i><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-GB style='color:red'>No trees were harmed in the posting of this message...however an extraordinarily large number of electrons were horribly inconvenienced.</span></i><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> OZAPRS <ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au> <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Uzzell<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:44<br><b>To:</b> Australian APRS Users <ozaprs@aprs.net.au><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OZAPRS] Domain rules for dstar.org.au<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div name=messageBodySection><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Darryl<br><br>Interesting. Should be plenty of clubs out there but would have thought a large club like ARNSW or ARVIC or WIA as custodians. <br><br>Would love to see it updated and more currently fresh. <br><br>David <br>VK2DU <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div name=messageReplySection><p class=MsoNormal>On 19 Jan 2021, 17:33 +1100, Darryl Smith <<a href="mailto:darryl@radio-active.net.au">darryl@radio-active.net.au</a>>, wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all<br><br>At the moment, and for the last few years, I have been the holder of the dstar.org.au domain name. New rules are coming in requiring .org.au domain names to be held by a registered charity or non-profit, with the Charities and Non Profits commission.<br><br>Are there any clubs out there who are registered as such who are prepared to take over the ownership of the domain?<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Darryl VK2TDS<br>_______________________________________________<br>OZAPRS mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OZAPRS@aprs.net.au">OZAPRS@aprs.net.au</a><br><a href="http://lists.aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs">http://lists.aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>