<div dir="ltr">Thanks for sharing that URL....<div><br></div><div>He is very wise and had my attention from;<div><br></div><div>"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia,"Times New Roman",Times,serif;font-size:16px">There are </span><strong style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia,"Times New Roman",Times,serif;font-size:16px"><em>no</em></strong><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia,"Times New Roman",Times,serif;font-size:16px"> viable methodologies to achieve positive gain with an HF mobile antenna"</span><div><br></div><div>So true.  I actually tested one of the first prototypes of that Stealth Telecom loop that George made, funny he came to the same conclusion.</div><div><br></div><div>73<br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Matthew</div><div>VK5ZM</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 December 2017 at 09:59, Glen English VK1XX <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:glenlist@pacificmedia.com.au" target="_blank">glenlist@pacificmedia.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">yea, essentially, RF wise, without  strap = without ground<br>
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which is nearly exactly like without the negative lead of a light bulb connected = no light...<br>
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Dont expect miracles with a base loaded 1.4m whip.<br>
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Expect efficiency to be around 10%<br>
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rather than keep writing, Andrew, there is this compendium online, worth a read :<br>
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<a href="http://www.k0bg.com/myths.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.k0bg.com/myths.html</a><br>
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it's pretty right. Alan is a good engineer with a practical understanding.<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On 5/12/2017 10:14 AM, Andrew Rich wrote:<br>
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Without strap - 5.06:1 at 10.147 MHz<br>
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With strap - 1.16 : 1 at 10.147 MHz<br>
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Now we are cooking with gas<br>
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Andrew<br>
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