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<p>Hi Andrew</p>
<p>I only have limited experience with APRS and am not that
technical so I have been watching this thread with some interest.<br>
With that said, I have found 30m APRS much more reliable than 40m.
I originally tried using 40m APRS but the limited number of igates
seemed to impede it somewhat, with most of my packets <br>
being received by VK7RO. <br>
</p>
<p>I now run two 30m igates one in Sydney and one in Crookwell. The
one in Sydney [VK2ZZM] is running with a wide band Codan 7004
[these old crystal locked receivers with their crystal ovens are
very stable] with UZ7HO Soundmodem and <br>
UI-view. The one in Crookwell [VK2ZZM-5] is running a narrow band
7004 with a Raspberry Pi and Dire wolf. Crookwell is at 1000
meters and very quiet compared to my Sydney set up however it
suffers from <br>
a slow 3G internet connection. This means that I can drive out the
front gate at Crookwell and my APRS packet is gated by Bruce VK4MQ
due to his fast internet connection.<br>
At the moment Bruce is running two 30m igates using the same
receiver VK4MQ-4 which is using UI-view and VK4MQ-5 that is
running the Pi. The Pi is obliviously faster passing the packets
to the internet. <br>
Owen VK2OL also has two 30m igates at separate locations in
Sydney, again one running Dire Wolf the other UI-view.<br>
<br>
On Owens recent trip across Australia we found that, apart from
WA, 30m APRS worked quite well.<br>
A good number of Owen's packets went through igates in VK5.<br>
T<span class="st">he Manly Warringah Radio Society</span> assisted
Greg VK8MD to establish an 30M igate in Alice Springs using a 7004
and Dire Wolf which helps cover central Australia.<br>
<br>
Earlier this year I did a trip from Sydney to the Gold Coast
running both VHF and HF APRS. Both performed well.<br>
</p>
<p>If you want reliable HF APRS I suggest, from my experience, 30m
APRS is the way to go. With a good antenna and Tiny Track3 you
will be off and running in no time.<br>
The only major APRS setup problem I had was with RF feedback when
I dedicated a Codan X2 as my APRS transmitter in place of my
FT897. <br>
I've up loaded a video of my APRS set up and part of Owens trip
using HF APRS on youtube. Let me know if you would like the links.</p>
<p>Like most aspects of Amateur Radio APRS can be a little
frustrating when you hit problems, but a lot of fun when you get
it running.<br>
I look forward to receiving some of your packets. <br>
</p>
<p>73s<br>
Rod <br>
VK2ZZM<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Forgot
to edit IGATE.INI <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Was
not passing anyting <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andrew
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> OZAPRS [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au">mailto:ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vk4tec@tech-software.net">vk4tec@tech-software.net</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 December 2017 12:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Australian APRS Users'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ozaprs@aprs.net.au"><ozaprs@aprs.net.au></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Peter' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vk4khp@netspace.net.au"><vk4khp@netspace.net.au></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OZAPRS] 9k6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sorry
UI-VIEW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> OZAPRS [<a
href="mailto:ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Evans<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 December 2017 12:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Australian APRS Users <<a
href="mailto:ozaprs@aprs.net.au" moz-do-not-send="true">ozaprs@aprs.net.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Peter <<a href="mailto:vk4khp@netspace.net.au"
moz-do-not-send="true">vk4khp@netspace.net.au</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OZAPRS] 9k6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Andrew, what are you using for your igate software? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri., 1 Dec. 2017, 01:38 , <<a
href="mailto:vk4tec@tech-software.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">vk4tec@tech-software.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
am testing 9k6 locally <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Getting
100 % copy from ICOM 706 and TNC to THD72A<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But
I can seem to get it to gate Internet to RF <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Have
I missed something ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
see p/VK coming in to me <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Andrew
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US">
OZAPRS [mailto:<a
href="mailto:ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Evans<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 December 2017 12:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Australian APRS Users <<a
href="mailto:ozaprs@aprs.net.au" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ozaprs@aprs.net.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Peter <<a
href="mailto:vk4khp@netspace.net.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vk4khp@netspace.net.au</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OZAPRS] HF Mobile XMAS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p>Gerard, don't forget that Lary VK5LY (SK) was also on
40m as well as 30m (possibly 20m) and is a sadly
missed station.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>As 2IO would fade away 5LY would take over!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'm ok to move over to 20m if worth it, otherwise
I'll remain on 40m<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I only transmit 25w on 40m and gate anything that I
decode. Have to admit that I haven't looked at the RF
ligs in a long time! <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
Thu., 30 Nov. 2017, 23:08 , <<a
href="mailto:vk4tec@tech-software.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vk4tec@tech-software.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank
you for all your feedback<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We
tracked a mate from Brisabane to MLB and he
backed off to 50 W on 10.147 MHz<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
was blown away how reliable it was <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Melbourne
to Brisbane – wow <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
have an antenna coming and tinytrak3 <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Will
advise departure date and call <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Will
do some prelim tests <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Andrew
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> OZAPRS [mailto:<a
href="mailto:ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gerard Hill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 30 November 2017 9:57
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Australian APRS Users <<a
href="mailto:ozaprs@aprs.net.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ozaprs@aprs.net.au</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OZAPRS] HF Mobile XMAS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">The
most recent list of HF IGates available is
here on the Wayback Machine:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a
href="https://web.archive.org/web/20161029215543/http:/www.aprs.net.au/hf/hf-gateways/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:#1155CC">https://web.archive.org/web/20161029215543/http://www.aprs.net.au/hf/hf-gateways/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">It's
15 months out of date now but better than
what is available on the official site:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a
href="http://www.aprs.net.au/hf/hf-gateways/" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:#1155CC">http://www.aprs.net.au/hf/hf-gateways/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Unfortunately
the official site can't be updated because
it no longer accepts logins. The site
contains old (and misleading) content ever
since the site was lost and restored from
a backup.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Sorry
guys - I can no longer keep it up-to-date.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Anyway,
there are no 20m IGates operating
currently. Mine ran from mid-2013 for a
couple of years but now I just run 40m and
2m.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">On
40m there is an IGate in Sydney and one in
Hobart. All are welcome to try 40m APRS.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Gerard
- VK2IO</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
30 November 2017 at 18:52, Glen English
VK1XX <<a
href="mailto:glenlist@pacificmedia.com.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">glenlist@pacificmedia.com.au</a>>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">7
MHz/ 10 MHz well ....horses /courses<br>
<br>
if there is a base 1000 km away 10 MHz
will be far daytime superior.<br>
<br>
Bases further away mean lower
ionospheric angles which means the whole
path and frequency selection become less
critical. Well there is much more to it
than that.<br>
<br>
antenna efficiency on a car sort of
goings according to wavelength cubed...
so 10 MHz is usually alot better...
lower noise on 10 MHz...<br>
<br>
I will run some GRAFIX charts<br>
<br>
is there a list of 7 amd 10 MHz IGATES
around the country?<br>
You might be better off for example with
a 20m IGATE in NZ in the daytime.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
On 30/11/2017 5:11 PM, Andrew Rich
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
30 Nov 2017, at 3:08 pm, Rodney
Mitchell <<a
href="mailto:Rodney@melecom.com.au"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Rodney@melecom.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From experience, 10 MHz has
greater reliability during the
day, 73 Rod<br>
VK5KFB.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">There's
also 7. 048,600MHz
(1600/1800Hz) if you want<br>
<br>
On Thu., 30 Nov. 2017, 14:13
Andrew Rich, <<a
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hello<br>
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I am planning to drive from
Brisbane to Melbourne this
December<br>
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With HF APRS on board<br>
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I think 10.147 MHz will be
the go<br>
<br>
ICOM 706MKIIG<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
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