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    Previous experience of adding a 30m dipole to an existing 20/40/80m
    unit was not good. 30m doesn't have a harmonic relationship and it
    presented weird and wonderful reactance to the feedpoint. ymmv<br>
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    Ray vk2tv<br>
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    On 11/12/10 11:19, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
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      cite="mid:222B32E4-B2EF-43CE-906C-8D521B0FF3CD@rendrag.net"
      type="cite">Lol, though monitors aren't allowed in bins, or even
      hard waste roadside pickup :(
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      <div>I have to say I do like the dell service, where if you order
        a computer with a monitor (can just be a laptop), they pickup
        the old monitor for free and dispose of it :) &nbsp; Though they had
        a heart attack when we asked if we could dispose of 60 21"
        sony's through that :-p &nbsp; Actually, they had enough of a heart
        attack when we asked about ordering 60 LCD's as 'spares' for our
        existing machines.. ;)</div>
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      <div>-_DG</div>
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      <div>Off to build a 40/30/20/10m fan dipole this arvo after work,
        will be interesting to see how much better that is than my TEV-1
        vertical!</div>
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          <div>On 11/12/2010, at 10:54 AM, Ray Wells wrote:</div>
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            <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> If I had a garbage
              service I'd toss the monitor in the bottom of the wheelie
              bin and it would just disappear but, no garbage service
              means a visit to the tip. I wonder how many monitors my
              big dam will hold &lt;g&gt;<br>
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              Ray vk2tv<br>
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              On 11/12/10 10:43, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
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                  <div>On 11/12/2010, at 10:38 AM, Ray Wells wrote:</div>
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                    <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">You mentioned
                      monitors. I recently took two dead CRT monitors to
                      the tip (I don't have a garbage service) and was
                      informed there is a (NSW) government enforced
                      $5.00 fee per monitor to leave them at the tip.
                      How's that for a hidden tax? I wonder how many
                      dead monitors will now be given swimming lessons?<font
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                <div>Wow, that's not bad - ACT govt charges $50/monitor
                  to dump them at the tip.. - when we replaced our 21"
                  sony CRT's with 19" LCD's back in 2005 (worked out
                  we'd pay back the costs of replacing 3x21" 500W crt's
                  with 3x19" 50W LCD's per Desk, in just under 6
                  months!), we ended up shoving them all into the
                  dumpster out the back over a couple of weeks..</div>
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                <div>--DG</div>
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                <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
                    12px;">Damien Gardner Jnr</span><span
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                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: 12px;">VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust</span><span
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                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: 12px;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    - &nbsp;</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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                    style="font-size: 12px;">--</span><span
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                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: 12px;">We rode on the winds of the
                    rising storm,</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: 12px;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: 12px;">&nbsp;We ran to the sounds of
                    thunder.</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: 12px;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: 12px;">We danced among the
                    lightning bolts,</span><span
                    class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: 12px;">&nbsp;and tore the world asunder</span></div>
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