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    Ewwww, ray was correct - swr on 30m would be 38 (609+j895) on 30m,
    due to the other band dipoles not being full wave etc on 30m..&nbsp; Ok,
    will be a 40(+15)/20/10 dipole then ;)&nbsp; I had contemplated shoving
    5m on the bottom, but it might look kinda rediculous in the middle..<br>
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    --DG<br>
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    On 11/12/2010 11:35 AM, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
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      cite="mid:9DE3B878-DA62-4BB8-B4A6-A25783C81359@rendrag.net"
      type="cite">ooh, really? &nbsp;I'm building one based from here (<a
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        href="http://www.hamuniverse.com/multidipole.html">http://www.hamuniverse.com/multidipole.html</a>)
      &nbsp;- yard isn't big enough for 40m of dipole for 80m band, so having
      already built the centre (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="http://www.rendrag.net/wpg2?g2_itemId=11755">http://www.rendrag.net/wpg2?g2_itemId=11755</a>),
      I thought I'd just make the top band 40m, and add 30 in the
      middle.. &nbsp;Might shove it through MMANA first to see what happens,
      before I finish cutting and assembling that behemoth, and then
      pulling it up between the masts..
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      <div>Thanks,</div>
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      <div>DG</div>
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        <div>
          <div>On 11/12/2010, at 11:26 AM, Ray Wells wrote:</div>
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            <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Previous experience
              of adding a 30m dipole to an existing 20/40/80m unit was
              not good. 30m doesn't have a harmonic relationship and it
              presented weird and wonderful reactance to the feedpoint.
              ymmv<br>
              <br>
              Ray vk2tv<br>
              <br>
              On 11/12/10 11:19, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:222B32E4-B2EF-43CE-906C-8D521B0FF3CD@rendrag.net"
                type="cite">Lol, though monitors aren't allowed in bins,
                or even hard waste roadside pickup :(
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                <div>I have to say I do like the dell service, where if
                  you order a computer with a monitor (can just be a
                  laptop), they pickup the old monitor for free and
                  dispose of it :) &nbsp; Though they had a heart attack when
                  we asked if we could dispose of 60 21" sony's through
                  that :-p &nbsp; Actually, they had enough of a heart attack
                  when we asked about ordering 60 LCD's as 'spares' for
                  our existing machines.. ;)</div>
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                <div>-_DG</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Off to build a 40/30/20/10m fan dipole this arvo
                  after work, will be interesting to see how much better
                  that is than my TEV-1 vertical!</div>
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                  <div>
                    <div>On 11/12/2010, at 10:54 AM, Ray Wells wrote:</div>
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                      <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> If I had a
                        garbage service I'd toss the monitor in the
                        bottom of the wheelie bin and it would just
                        disappear but, no garbage service means a visit
                        to the tip. I wonder how many monitors my big
                        dam will hold &lt;g&gt;<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        Ray vk2tv<br>
                        <br>
                        On 11/12/10 10:43, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
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                          cite="mid:DCB85970-08EA-4085-A580-E44A6FCD552B@rendrag.net"
                          type="cite">
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                            <div>On 11/12/2010, at 10:38 AM, Ray Wells
                              wrote:</div>
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                              <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">You
                                mentioned monitors. I recently took two
                                dead CRT monitors to the tip (I don't
                                have a garbage service) and was informed
                                there is a (NSW) government enforced
                                $5.00 fee per monitor to leave them at
                                the tip. How's that for a hidden tax? I
                                wonder how many dead monitors will now
                                be given swimming lessons?<font
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                          <div>Wow, that's not bad - ACT govt charges
                            $50/monitor to dump them at the tip.. - when
                            we replaced our 21" sony CRT's with 19"
                            LCD's back in 2005 (worked out we'd pay back
                            the costs of replacing 3x21" 500W crt's with
                            3x19" 50W LCD's per Desk, in just under 6
                            months!), we ended up shoving them all into
                            the dumpster out the back over a couple of
                            weeks..</div>
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                          <div>--DG</div>
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                              style="font-size: 12px;">We danced among
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