Looks like VK2RPL-1 one it is!<br><br>
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<div>Yeah.... Isn't -1 used for fill in digi's?</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir="ltr"><i><b>From:</b></i> <a href="mailto:gordon.t@internode.on.net" target="_blank">Gordon Taylor</a></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir="ltr"><i><b>Date:</b></i> 8/11/2010 5:46:43 PM</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir="ltr"><i><b>Subject:</b></i> Re: [OZAPRS] Proposed digi for Mt Nardi</div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #310900; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Regards,<br>Gordo VK4VP</span></b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au" target="_blank">ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au" target="_blank">ozaprs-bounces@aprs.net.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Sharp<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 August 2010 17:17<br><b>To:</b> Australian APRS Users<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OZAPRS] Proposed digi for Mt Nardi</span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's what I thought - but when I looked up the <a href="http://aprs.net.au/" target="_blank">aprs.net.au</a> site <a href="http://aprs.net.au/general/standard-ssids" target="_blank">http://aprs.net.au/general/standard-ssids</a> it gives -1 "Digipeater, or Home Station running a Fill-In Digi" and -3 as "Digipeater".</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11 August 2010 16:41, Ray Wells <<a href="mailto:vk2tv@exemail.com.au" target="_blank">vk2tv@exemail.com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Steve,<br><br>SSID -1 is generally used for digi's<br><br>Ray vk2tv </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>On 11/08/10 12:20, Steve Sharp wrote: </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">G'day Ray - all looking good, one final question should the SSID be VK2RPL-1 or -3?</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm leaning towards -1, but am happy to be corrected before it is written in and sent on it's way;-)</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10 August 2010 13:59, Ray Wells <<a href="mailto:vk2tv@exemail.com.au" target="_blank">vk2tv@exemail.com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Steve,<br><br>83m is 272 ft, close enough to the 300 I guessed.<br><br>800m is a tad higher than what SPLAT! (and Google earth) thinks it is but still close enough, especially given the step sizes available for HAAT and Power.<br>
<br>HAAT - Height Above Average Terrain<br><br>Pick 0dB gain and the nearest height and you won't be too far off. It's only a guide.<br><br>Ray vk2tv </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>On 10/08/10 09:27, Steve Sharp wrote: </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"Antenna Gain is going to be 3db to start with but then unity when we get around to putting the 2m repeater up there , HAAT not <br>sure what it means but antenna hight is 83m above ground or 883m above sea level"</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10 August 2010 07:48, Ray Wells <<a href="mailto:vk2tv@exemail.com.au" target="_blank">vk2tv@exemail.com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Steve,<br><br>From SPLAT!, the pgrogram that produced the plots, HAAT is 2073.38 ft. I guessed an antenna height of 300 ft when I did the plots. Take the difference between 300 and the "real" antenna height and add/subtract from 2073 and you'll have your figure. </p>
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4. double extended Zepp (each dipole half = 5/8) 3dB<br>5. 3 halfwaves in phase = 3dB<br><br>An error of 1-2dB in your "guess" will be mostly insignificant on the radius of the resulting coverage circle.<br><br>
Cheers ... Ray <br><br><br> --==[ SPLAT! v1.2.1 Site Analysis Report For: Nardi ]==--<br><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Site location: 28.5447 South / 206.7138 West (-28<span>�</span> 32' 40" S / 206<span>�</span> 42' 49" W)<br>
Ground elevation: 2608.27 feet AMSL<br>Antenna height: 300.00 feet AGL / 2908.27 feet AMSL<br>Antenna height above average terrain: 2073.38 feet<br><br>Average terrain at 0 degrees azimuth: 689.75 feet AMSL<br>Average terrain at 45 degrees azimuth: 756.54 feet AMSL<br>
Average terrain at 90 degrees azimuth: 1060.91 feet AMSL<br>Average terrain at 135 degrees azimuth: 1151.16 feet AMSL<br>Average terrain at 180 degrees azimuth: 686.42 feet AMSL<br>Average terrain at 225 degrees azimuth: 585.24 feet AMSL<br>
Average terrain at 270 degrees azimuth: 919.58 feet AMSL<br>Average terrain at 315 degrees azimuth: 829.48 feet AMSL<br><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 09/08/10 18:28, Steve Sharp wrote: </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">G'day Ray - project is on the move again - the GM300 has been repaired and aligned and I have taken a look at the digi_ned link you sent regarding PHG and I'm sure we can add it as soon as the tech tells me the HAAT and gain of the antenna.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At this stage I have to program up the Foxdigi witht he site info and post it away to the installer who will get it up on Nardi next time he is workign at the site.</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully this'll kick interest along and we'll get some others up in the months to follow.....</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">73 de Steve VK2POO</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 23 July 2010 13:36, Ray Wells <<a href="mailto:vk2tv@exemail.com.au" target="_blank">vk2tv@exemail.com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Steve,<br><br>PHG is (P)ower, (H)eight, (G)ain and is sent in a beacon as in this UIDigi example from VK2RMC-1. Software that handles PHG will display a coverage circle around the digi site based of the information transmitted by the digi.<br>
<br>Beacon1Text = !3056.77SS15243.92E#PHG5513/ Kempsey, NSW<br><br>Beacon2Text = !3056.77SS15243.92E#PHG5513/ Kempsey, NSW<br><br>Beacon3Text = :146.875- *111111z3048.00S/15255.00Er R50k<br>
<br><br>The 5513 says<br>5 25W<br>5 antenna 320 feet above average terrain<br>1 1dB antenna gain<br>3 pattern offset towards 135 degrees.<br><br>Take a look here for further explanation<br><br><a href="http://digined.pe1mew.nl/?How_to:Calculate_PHG_information" target="_blank">http://digined.pe1mew.nl/?How_to:Calculate_PHG_information</a><br>
<br>The extra S after Latitude causes a green star with the letter S to be displayed as the digi icon.<br><br>Beacons 1 and 2 are identical except for the path. Beacon 1 has no path set so it is not transmitted beyond the local digi. Beacons 2 and 3 have a path of WIDE2-2 so that the beacon will be digied over two hops.<br>
<br>Beacon 3 is reporting the frequency and offset (146.875-), time, location and range of the local voice repeater. The series of 1's indicates that time is not set<br><br>Howzat?<br><br>Ray vk2tv </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>On 23/07/10 12:53, Steve Sharp wrote: </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">G'day Ray - Ok, I said I was new, so what is PHG apart from a TLA?</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 23 July 2010 12:45, Ray Wells <<a href="mailto:vk2tv@exemail.com.au" target="_blank">vk2tv@exemail.com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now I'm the first to put my hand up and say I'll have a go - but sadly my skill set is a little light so I thought it best to get some feedback from people who have more experience in this field and hopefully get it right the first time;-)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm using a foxdigi and seem to be getting the desired effect and it is repeating (most) of the packets it receives from VK4RGC-3.</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have configured it thus, but not sure that I have the optimum settings yet....(obviously MYCALL and the BTEXT location will be changed for it's installation site)</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ECHO ON<br>TXDELAY 64<br>GPS $GPGGA<br>TRace OFF<br>MONitor ALL<br>DIGIpeater ON<br>BEACON On EVERY 30<br>UNPROTO WIDE1-1 V WIDE2-2<br>MYCALL VK2POO-3<br>MYALIAS WIDE2-1<br>BTEXT !2814.23s/15330.09e#/FoxDigi Testing for SARC</p>
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