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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If the WIA was interested in fostering
radio</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>They would donate test equipment not off the shelf
DSTAR </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>That is turning us back into users not
makers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----------------------------------------------------------<BR>Andrew Rich
<BR>Airways Technical Officer Grade 4<BR>Surveillance - RADAR ADS-B<BR>Amateur
Radio Callsign VK4TEC<BR>email: <A
href="mailto:vk4tec@tech-software.net">vk4tec@tech-software.net</A><BR>web: <A
href="http://www.tech-software.net">www.tech-software.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=vk4tec@tech-software.net
href="mailto:vk4tec@tech-software.net">Andrew Rich (Home)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ozaprs@aprs.net.au
href="mailto:ozaprs@aprs.net.au">Australian APRS Users</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 31, 2009 8:53
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OZAPRS] ZL 6m
bandplan</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I think we have gone backwards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----------------------------------------------------------<BR>Andrew Rich
<BR>Airways Technical Officer Grade 4<BR>Surveillance - RADAR ADS-B<BR>Amateur
Radio Callsign VK4TEC<BR>email: <A
href="mailto:vk4tec@tech-software.net">vk4tec@tech-software.net</A><BR>web: <A
href="http://www.tech-software.net">www.tech-software.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=vk7dik@gmail.com href="mailto:vk7dik@gmail.com">Dick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ozaprs@aprs.net.au
href="mailto:ozaprs@aprs.net.au">Australian APRS Users</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 31, 2009 7:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OZAPRS] ZL 6m
bandplan</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Here Here.......<BR><BR>Cheers,
Dick.<BR>VK7DIK.<BR><BR><BR>Ray Wells wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:4A9AF36D.2090401@exemail.com.au type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Is Andrew anti-WIA or anti-FCALL, or both?
We need to propagate the bands, and the F-calls are a great way to
introduce people to the hobby to try to see that happens.
As someone with nothing more than a desire to move from a SWL to an
amateur operator, near fifty years ago, I experienced many years of hard
slog, teaching myself everything I knew to sit the written theory
examination back in 1969. I met many people along the way who couldn't
make the grade, and that's disappointing because some of them would have
made better operators than some who hold a licence, including myself.
If it's the low level of knowledge that bothers you, you need to
question just how much a long-term holder of a ticket knows about
"today's" radio/electronics environment, as applicable to the hobby. How
many would pass the examination today? If re-licencing was compulsory
we'd have a lot more F-calls.
The hobby has always had its knockers. First it was knocking the Z call
in the 1950's - they're not real amateurs, then the Novice Licence in
the 1970's - the licence exam is too easy, and now F-calls - make up
your own reason.
As easy as radio/electronics is to someone who's worked with it for a
lifetime as a hobby, or it's because it's their profession, not everyone
who wants to get into amateur radio was born with a soldering iron in
their hand.
And think about some of those who would have been knocked in the past
for not holding a "full" licence, despite the theory examination for the
AOCP and AOLCP being identical. Think about the microwave work done by
Bill Cox, VK2ZAC and the Aircraft Enhancement work of Gordon McDonald,
VK2ZAD. Who could say the late Chris Jones, VK2ZDD wasn't a "full"
amateur, given the tireless work he did for amateur radio in this
country, despite having a Z call. There were, and are, many more.
It's not the grade of licence that matters, it's how you apply it.
Ray vk2tv
Andrew Rich (Home) wrote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">WIA = FCALL factory
----------------------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich
Airways Technical Officer Grade 4
Surveillance - RADAR ADS-B
Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC
email: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:vk4tec@tech-software.net">vk4tec@tech-software.net</A>
web: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://www.tech-software.net">www.tech-software.net</A>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Evans" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:scott@vk7hse.hobby-site.org"><scott@vk7hse.hobby-site.org></A>
To: <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:zl3ai@qsl.net"><zl3ai@qsl.net></A>; "Australian APRS Users" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:ozaprs@aprs.net.au"><ozaprs@aprs.net.au></A>
Cc: "ZLAPRS" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:zlaprs@yahoogroups.com"><zlaprs@yahoogroups.com></A>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] ZL 6m bandplan
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">WOW colour! Hmm looks like the WIA are behind the times!
On Sun, August 30, 2009 6:52 pm, David Fraser wrote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.nzart.org.nz/maps/2009/2009-bp1-2.pdf">http://www.nzart.org.nz/maps/2009/2009-bp1-2.pdf</A>
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