[OZAPRS] on community APRS

Glen English VK1XX glenlist at pacificmedia.com.au
Mon Oct 16 17:08:22 AEDT 2017


Hi Matthew

I'll get comms here while it is relevant to the forum.

Am also doing midband VHF APRS....

Yeah in the old days, you'd work really hard on modem symbol recovery
loops, optimizing this and that. these days I just run 8 parallel modems
on different phases and pick the modem that produces the correct CRC...

I can actually understand the Direwolf source , and the group and
support is excellent.

I'll keep you abreast on the STM32. I have full pick and place line here
so can build stuff...

glen
On 16/10/2017 4:32 PM, Matthew Cook wrote:
> Hi Glen,
>
> I'd like to know more about what you're proposing with the connected
> mode packet and WICEN around VK1.   Recently we've introduced APRS to
> a community event that we support, which has been a great success.  We
> however also would like to pass scoring and repetitive traffic using
> connected mode packet on low band VHF.  So what you're doing with
> Direwolf and STM32 processors has piqued my interest.
>
> Like you I'm also a ground zero Engineer who finds it funny that what
> is old is suddenly new again with DSP.  As one of our club members
> would say "MIPS are cheap".
>
> Feel free to contact me offline if concerned about feeding the trolls.
>
> 73
>
> Matthew
> VK5ZM
>
> On 16 October 2017 at 14:22, Glen English VK1XX
> <glenlist at pacificmedia.com.au <mailto:glenlist at pacificmedia.com.au>>
> wrote:
>
>     Hi Matthew, thanks  for the history info.
>
>     and Andrew- you clearly can do some very good smart work, and you are
>     obviously well capable in your field of interest and useful to the
>     community,  but those sort of useless comments are not becoming
>     behaviour  of someone who has the ability to be a technical
>     innovator/leader.
>
>
>     On 16/10/2017 2:31 PM, Matthew Cook wrote:
>     > Glen,
>     >
>     > Can only speak for VK5 communities...
>     >
>     > 1) 7575 still exists in isolated communities... 5175 won out
>     over the
>     > majority in the cities...
>     > 2) Relevance of packet slowly dwindled, WIA was nationalised, Packet
>     > User Groups died, equipment pulled out by repeater maintainers; APRS
>     > all that is left of AX25
>     > 3) Very little connected mode, I believe we are down to one BBS
>     being
>     > privately run
>     > 4) Backbones pulled out years ago
>     >
>     > VK5 was heavily into ROSE networking and once upon a time you could
>     > route from Adelaide through to regional areas over 4800bps ROSE
>     packet
>     > networks.   None of that exists (to my knowledge)... very few if any
>     > would remember those networks.
>     >
>     > I am told that much of the routing between packet BBS's is now via
>     > AX25 encapulation over UDP networks established between BBS's.   One
>     > of our club members has built a FBB BBS and is the last
>     connected mode
>     > packet service on air here in VK5.
>     >
>     > The wars between ROSE and NETROM died once relevance of packet
>     > dwindled, I don't think there was ever a clear winner.
>     >
>     > 73
>     >
>     > Matthew
>     > VK5ZM
>     >
>     > On 16 October 2017 at 07:24, Glen English VK1XX
>     > <glenlist at pacificmedia.com.au
>     <mailto:glenlist at pacificmedia.com.au>
>     <mailto:glenlist at pacificmedia.com.au
>     <mailto:glenlist at pacificmedia.com.au>>>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >     OK, so who here is the technical supremo that can for me,
>     without
>     >     guessing :
>     >
>     >     1) fill me in on a few questions I have of what has happened the
>     >     past 30
>     >     years in packet
>     >
>     >     - what happened to the 7575 frequency ?
>     >     - what happened to ROSE and net/rom ? are there any of those
>     >     gateways ?
>     >     - is there much connected mode traffic these days ?
>     >     - what happened to the 4800/9600 backbones?
>     >     -
>     >
>     >
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