[OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
Andrew Rich
vk4tec at tech-software.net
Wed Mar 9 04:28:39 EST 2011
I live a few km's from VK4DC-1 and VK4FY-2
I can cook a chicken with the amount of RF from them on 145.175 MHz
----- Original Message -----
From: "VK4UN" <vk4un at bigpond.com>
To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
> Thanks, so I guess you have tried to contact him with no luck
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
> Cc: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
>
>
>> Good luck
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Andrew Rich
>>
>> On 08/03/2011, at 19:52, "VK4UN" <vk4un at bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So what's the fix, we can all paste what we see on raw data, has anyone
>>> tried to contact VK4FY, I have sent him a email but got no response
>>>
>>> vk4un
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Rich"
>>> <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
>>> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Want some more ?
>>>>
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:27:31 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:29:32 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:31:32 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:33:03 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 18CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:33:37 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RC-1,VK2RAP-3,WIDE2*,qAR,VK4HPW-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 18CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:35:05 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 18CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:35:34 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:37:36 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:39:04 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:39:37 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:41:37 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:41:37 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 18CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:43:13 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:47:42 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:49:43 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:51:44 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:53:44 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:55:04 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:55:48 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:57:30 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 08:59:51 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:01:52 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:03:53 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:05:33 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:07:55 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:09:00 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:09:55 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:11:19 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:11:56 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:13:59 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:15:58 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:17:57 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:20:00 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:21:21 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:22:01 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:24:01 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:26:02 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:28:03 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:30:05 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:31:22 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:32:05 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:34:06 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:34:37 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:36:07 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:38:12 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:39:39 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:42:09 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:43:15 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:44:10 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,VK4FY-4:!2722.04S115300.01E# 12.2V
>>>> 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>> 2011-03-08 09:45:40 UTC:
>>>> VK4DC-1>APOT2A,VK4RRC-13*,WIDE2-2,qAS,VK4VP-1:!2722.04S115300.01E#
>>>> 12.2V 19CAspley fill in digi-peater
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Gatward"
>>>> <geoff-lists at gatwards.org>
>>>> To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed location.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like it's a UI-View plugin that's been written as a 'good idea'
>>>>> to
>>>>> turn APRS into a BBS network... (UI-Store and Forward) ??? In VK,
>>>>> VK4FY-2 is running this software, and this is where all the traffic is
>>>>> originating from.
>>>>>
>>>>> A quick search on aprs.fi for MAIL_FOR shows a few stations globally
>>>>> running the same software, and interestingly they all have the same
>>>>> problem with their raw posits - not sure exactly what is wrong, but
>>>>> SOMETHING is pretty wrong with the plugin as it's sending garbage
>>>>> packets into the network.
>>>>>
>>>>> At a minimum VK4FY-2 should change the frequency of these beacons to
>>>>> maybe once per hour rather than every 5 minutes as seems to be
>>>>> currently
>>>>> configured.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Jut took a look at the duplicate packet logs on first and
>>>>> second.aprs.net.au and they are chokkas with of this stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 17:32 +0930, Geoff Gatward wrote:
>>>>>> I'd be questioning what these NETACTIVE and MAIL_FOR objects are, and
>>>>>> who is sending them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The string on the end of the NETACTIVE beacon is a list of weather
>>>>>> warnings sent out by WXSVR-AU - but why whoever NETACTIVE is is
>>>>>> picking
>>>>>> them up and spamming the APRS stream with rubbish is beyond me....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking back through the posts on this subject all teh bad packets
>>>>>> appear to be from some automatic system that is injecting stuff that
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> completely irrellevant into the stream.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MAIL_FOR
>>>>>> NETACTIVE
>>>>>> STORE_FWD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> APRS is not a BBS system - someone out there is trying to use it as
>>>>>> one....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>> VK2XJG/VK8GG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 01:11 +0000, Peter Wicklein wrote:
>>>>>> > Steve and all...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Yes I get the similar thing from aprs.fi using UIview as an Igate
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > viewing raw packets.. see below
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:05:44 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW
>>>>>> > > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500
>>>>>> > km/h)]
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:08:40 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
>>>>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:15:17 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX >
>>>>>> > Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:15:30 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=6
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:20:29 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw& B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO
>>>>>> > > for S&F
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:22:56 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw& B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO
>>>>>> > > for S&F
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:35 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *072356z3741.77S
>>>>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:40 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
>>>>>> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:25:44 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW
>>>>>> > > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E [Location changes too fast (>500
>>>>>> > km/h)]
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:39:39 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
>>>>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:16 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:>281002z145.175 MHZ IGATE & DX >
>>>>>> > Cluster Greensborough Melbourne
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:28 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=7,LOC_CNT=5
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:37 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;MAIL_FOR *080027z3741.77S
>>>>>> > \14506.19E?No Messages [Location changes too fast (>500 km/h)]
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:43 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;STORE&FWD*281003z3741.77S
>>>>>> > \14506.19E?Msg ?SFINFO to VK3TBN-10 for Help
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:45:45 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:;NETACTIVE*030814z3741.77S/14506.19EIASPFLW
>>>>>> > > BKLFLW SEHGLE NECGLE WSCGLE E
>>>>>> > 2011-03-08 00:50:30 UTC:
>>>>>> > VK3TBN-10>APU25N,TCPIP*,qAC,T2AUST:=IaS#/s0Bw& B"?INFO" or ?SFINFO
>>>>>> > > for S&F
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > See the mail_for says its moving at 500KM in red .... same as
>>>>>> > netactive ... but the location is the same...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Peter
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:59:04 +1100
>>>>>> > > From: steven at nami.com.au
>>>>>> > > To: ozaprs at aprs.net.au
>>>>>> > > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Something is wrong, this is a fixed
>>>>>> > > location.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Refer to this blog entry from Hessu re timing problems on
>>>>>> > > aprs.fi.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > http://blog.aprs.fi/2008/03/on-duplicate-and-delayed-packets.html
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Could this also be causing your problems?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Regards
>>>>>> > > Steven VK2BOS
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On 08/03/11 08:41, Gordon Taylor wrote:
>>>>>> > > > Come on experts, I raised this a few days ago. What is going
>>>>>> > > > on, a
>>>>>> > fixed
>>>>>> > > > location exceeding 500kmh?????
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > I drove to Brisbane and back yesterday (VK4VP-7) and had heaps
>>>>>> > > > of
>>>>>> > the
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