Navigators NOT (was Re: [OZAPRS] Test)
Dave Walmsley
dave at hunterlink.net.au
Fri Jan 30 05:51:03 EST 2009
It's about time some of these companies were taken to task.
Before navigators were a commodity I had a PDA with navigation software tell
me every day to turn right then left to go round the Roundabout outside
home, but they refused to admit that was a problem, or give me updated maps
after I submitted several corrections. When they finally offered an update
it was for the whole software package, at a cost about 2/3 of the original
and I could not simply have the corrections. I 'respectfully' declined their
offer!
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Gardner Jnr" <rendrag at rendrag.net>
To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Test
> While we were on our honeymoon, we pretty much ditched the Navman S90i
> that the NRMA replaced my old icn530 with when it got stolen, and went
> back to paper maps.. It not knowing the proper name of the main street
> in mt gambier was a bit of a pain.. But driving from kyneton to
> lancefield (which I've done hundreds of times), ON lancefield road, it
> kept wanting me to turn right - half the time into one-way streets, and
> most of the time onto dirt roads (it was set to NO dirt roads).. Leaving
> lancefield, and wanting to head up to mt macedon, it again took us down a
> dirt road - even though it was set to no dirt roads.. Ended up having
> 'fun' getting the commodore wagon un-bottomed- out off a rock, and
> throwing the gps into the back of the wagon somewhere... (yeah yeah, I
> should have been more careful in the wagon, but while I knew I had less
> ground clearance than I used to have in the hilux, I hadn't really
> realised just how much less.. ;) )
>
> And Navman just sent me an email asking if I'd like to buy the latest
> maps for $269.. I emailed them back detailing the hell we went through
> with it on the honeymoon (I'd actually told NRMA that I didn't want
> another navman under any circumstances, and wanted a tomtom, but their
> new-for-old apparently won't let you change brands :( ), and asking if
> their new maps came with a money-back guarantee, if they turned out to be
> just as useless as the current ones, but I haven't heard back..
>
> Oh the best bit.. - our house doesn't exist apparently... The houses on
> either side (we're at the end of a court) do, but not ours... Go figure!
>
> --DG
>
>
>
> On 29/01/2009, at 12:44 PM, Shaun Pitcher wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi set my Garmin to 'shortest distance' and ended up on forestry trails
>> driving across creaks and fallen trees. My Falcon (low XR6) was not too
>> happy but made it. Both phone reception and 2m were non existent. Next
>> time I think a 4 wheel drive would be more prudent ;-) Not to mention
>> a
>> HF rig :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shaun Pitcher
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brian Beamish" <dinkum at optusnet.com.au>
>> Sent by: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au
>> 28/01/2009 10:15 PM
>> Please respond to
>> Australian APRS Users <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>>
>>
>> To
>> "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>> cc
>>
>> Subject
>> Re: [OZAPRS] Test
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> Great to hear that someone was actually tracking me you may wonder why I
>> left the highway to take the back roads that I did.
>>
>>
>>
>> In October to celebrate my 70th birthday I trekked the Kokoda Track in
>> PNG
>> the hardest trek that I had ever undertaken whilst there I made good
>> mates
>> with my guide Wallace and porter Brendan I owe each of then a lot for
>> without their help I may not have made it, incidentally it rained 7 out
>> of
>> the 9 day trek. The PNG company that my guide worked for sent him over
>> here
>> so that he could come to the Tamworth Country Music Festival with us.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rather then just follow the highway all the way home which we would
>> normally
>> do when we reached Tenterfield I set the TomTom to take us the by the
>> shortest route not the fastest straight down the highway one of the
>> reasons
>> for doing this was to take Wallace through some very different country
>> to
>> what we encountered on the way down the highway to Tamworth. Different
>> it
>> certainly was including a couple of near none existent "Roads" passing
>> through some rough and also rainforest country so dense that the TomTom
>> lost
>> the satellite a few times. All went well until we got behind, south of,
>> Mt
>> Lindesay where 2 of the 3 roads the TomTom told us to go down no longer
>> existed not even with a 4x4 track and a 3rd was closed. It was great fun
>> but
>> I am sure that anyone tracking us would have been wondering where in
>> hell
>> we
>> were going.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray I would have liked to have seen the track we took but those files
>> seem
>> very large to me very pleased that you did track me please do so anytime
>> and
>> pass it on to who ever you wish.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just for fun I can recommend to anyone running a navigator when out away
>> from the city rather than setting it to the normal fastest way set it to
>> the
>> shortest way you will, like us, be pleasantly surprised as to where it
>> may
>> take you,
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Brian VK4BBS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ray Wells
>>
>> Date: 28/01/2009 6:21:41 PM
>>
>> To: Australian APRS Users
>>
>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Test
>>
>>
>>
>> Geoff wrote:
>>
>>> Test - please disregard (although I know some of you won't) ;-)
>>
>>>
>>
>> I did :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope Brian, vk4bbs, doesn't mind, but I tracked his return from
>>
>> Tamworth until just north of the vk2/vk4 border, where I ran out of
>>
>> useful maps.
>>
>>
>>
>> The results are quite interesting, with plenty of reporting points until
>>
>> Brian dropped down into tiger country east of Tenterfield, on the
>>
>> Bruxner Highway. From then, until well north of Tabulam, the number of
>>
>> (30m) reporting point was significantly low.
>>
>>
>>
>> I took a number of xastir screen shots at different zoom levels, and
>>
>> employing different map, for Brian's journey. I haven't tallied up the
>>
>> total size of files but there is probably around some tens of MB. If
>>
>> anyone is interested in copies of the plots, I will provide ftp access
>>
>> on an individual basis. You will need to email me and I will, in return,
>>
>> provide a user name and password which will remain active for just a few
>>
>> days. My upload speed is 128kb/s so be patient.
>>
>>
>>
>> If Brian is interested an supplies me with an email address I'll forward
>>
>> them on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray vk2tv
>>
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