Navigators NOT (was Re: [OZAPRS] Test)

[Dave Walmsley]

It's about time some of these companies were taken to task.

Before navigators were a commodity I had a PDA with navigation software tell 
me every day to turn right then left to go round the Roundabout outside 
home, but they refused to admit that was a problem, or give me updated maps 
after I submitted several corrections. When they finally offered an update 
it was for the whole software package, at a cost about 2/3 of the original 
and I could not simply have the corrections. I 'respectfully' declined their 
offer!

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Damien Gardner Jnr" <rendrag at rendrag.net>
To: "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Test


> While we were on our honeymoon, we pretty much ditched the Navman S90i 
> that the NRMA replaced my old icn530 with when it got stolen, and went 
> back to paper maps..  It not knowing the proper name of the main  street 
> in mt gambier was a bit of a pain..  But driving from kyneton  to 
> lancefield (which I've done hundreds of times), ON lancefield road,  it 
> kept wanting me to turn right -  half the time into one-way  streets, and 
> most of the time onto dirt roads (it was set to NO dirt  roads)..  Leaving 
> lancefield, and wanting to head up to mt macedon, it  again took us down a 
> dirt road - even though it was set to no dirt  roads..  Ended up having 
> 'fun' getting the commodore wagon un-bottomed- out off a rock, and 
> throwing the gps into the back of the wagon  somewhere... (yeah yeah, I 
> should have been more careful in the wagon,  but while I knew I had less 
> ground clearance than I used to have in  the hilux, I hadn't really 
> realised just how much less.. ;) )
>
> And Navman just sent me an email asking if I'd like to buy the latest 
> maps for $269..  I emailed them back detailing the hell we went  through 
> with it on the honeymoon (I'd actually told NRMA that I didn't  want 
> another navman under any circumstances, and wanted a tomtom, but  their 
> new-for-old apparently won't let you change brands :( ), and  asking if 
> their new maps came with a money-back guarantee, if they  turned out to be 
> just as useless as the current ones, but I haven't  heard back..
>
> Oh the best bit.. - our house doesn't exist apparently...  The houses  on 
> either side (we're at the end of a court) do, but not ours...  Go  figure!
>
> --DG
>
>
>
> On 29/01/2009, at 12:44 PM, Shaun Pitcher wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi set my Garmin to 'shortest distance' and ended up on forestry  trails
>> driving across creaks and fallen trees.  My Falcon (low XR6) was not  too
>> happy but made it. Both phone reception and 2m were non existent.   Next
>> time I think a 4 wheel drive would be more prudent  ;-)  Not to  mention 
>> a
>> HF rig  :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shaun Pitcher
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brian Beamish" <dinkum at optusnet.com.au>
>> Sent by: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au
>> 28/01/2009 10:15 PM
>> Please respond to
>> Australian APRS Users  <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>>
>>
>> To
>> "Australian APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
>> cc
>>
>> Subject
>> Re: [OZAPRS] Test
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> Great to hear that someone was actually tracking me you may wonder  why I
>> left the highway to take the back roads that I did.
>>
>>
>>
>> In October to celebrate my 70th birthday I trekked the Kokoda Track  in 
>> PNG
>> the hardest trek that I had ever undertaken whilst there I made good 
>> mates
>> with my guide Wallace and porter Brendan I owe each of then a lot for
>> without their help I may not have made it, incidentally it rained 7  out 
>> of
>> the 9 day trek. The PNG company that my guide worked for sent him over
>> here
>> so that he could come to the Tamworth Country Music Festival with us.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rather then just follow the highway all the way home which we would
>> normally
>> do when we reached Tenterfield I set the TomTom to take us the by the
>> shortest route not the fastest straight down the highway one of the
>> reasons
>> for doing this was to take Wallace through some very different  country 
>> to
>> what we encountered on the way down the highway to Tamworth.  Different 
>> it
>> certainly was including a couple of near none existent "Roads" passing
>> through some rough and also rainforest country so dense that the  TomTom
>> lost
>> the satellite a few times. All went well until we got behind, south  of, 
>> Mt
>> Lindesay where 2 of the 3 roads the TomTom told us to go down no  longer
>> existed not even with a 4x4 track and a 3rd was closed. It was great  fun
>> but
>> I am sure that anyone tracking us would have been wondering where in 
>> hell
>> we
>> were going.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray I would have liked to have seen the track we took but those  files 
>> seem
>> very large to me very pleased that you did track me please do so  anytime
>> and
>> pass it on to who ever you wish.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just for fun I can recommend to anyone running a navigator when out  away
>> from the city rather than setting it to the normal fastest way set  it to
>> the
>> shortest way you will, like us, be pleasantly surprised as to where  it 
>> may
>> take you,
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Brian VK4BBS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ray Wells
>>
>> Date: 28/01/2009 6:21:41 PM
>>
>> To: Australian APRS Users
>>
>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Test
>>
>>
>>
>> Geoff wrote:
>>
>>> Test - please disregard (although I know some of you won't) ;-)
>>
>>>
>>
>> I did :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope Brian, vk4bbs, doesn't mind, but I tracked his return from
>>
>> Tamworth until just north of the vk2/vk4 border, where I ran out of
>>
>> useful maps.
>>
>>
>>
>> The results are quite interesting, with plenty of reporting points  until
>>
>> Brian dropped down into tiger country east of Tenterfield, on the
>>
>> Bruxner Highway. From then, until well north of Tabulam, the number of
>>
>> (30m) reporting point was significantly low.
>>
>>
>>
>> I took a number of xastir screen shots at different zoom levels, and
>>
>> employing different map, for Brian's journey. I haven't tallied up the
>>
>> total size of files but there is probably around some tens of MB. If
>>
>> anyone is interested in copies of the plots, I will provide ftp access
>>
>> on an individual basis. You will need to email me and I will, in  return,
>>
>> provide a user name and password which will remain active for just a  few
>>
>> days. My upload speed is 128kb/s so be patient.
>>
>>
>>
>> If Brian is interested an supplies me with an email address I'll  forward
>>
>> them on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray vk2tv
>>
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