RE: [OZAPRS] VK5EX-4

From bogus@does.not.exist.com Sun Aug 23 09:03:27 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:03:27 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: a start. I currently own an old Garmin GPS 55 and wonder if this can be connected to the Kenwood. I'm also a bit "grey" about frequencies used etc. I'm really after something simple and portable so it can be moved from vehicle to aircraft etc. I'm also only interested in setting up to transmit my position. Anyone having the time to point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. As an aside, I have an automatic weather station here at Paradise Beach that may be of interest to some. www.netspace.net.au/~hooked CHEERS Daryl Hooke (VK3AWA) 03 51463347 hooked at netspace.net.au ------=_NextPart_001_34DF_01C87587.110CDEB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Group,

I have just discovered APRS and have been doing a bit of reading to = try and

understand it all.

Now I think I have the basics I would like to set up a station for = tracking

whilst I'm mobile. I'm a licensed pilot and thought it would be a = good

method of tracking my whereabouts whilst I'm flying = somewhere.

From what I've gleaned from the net, I'm thinking I would need a = TH-D7 for a

start. I currently own an old Garmin GPS 55 and wonder if = this can be connected to the Kenwood.

I'm also a bit "grey" about frequencies used etc.

I'm really after something simple and portable so it can be moved = from vehicle to aircraft etc.

I'm also only interested in setting up to transmit my = position.

Anyone having the time to point me in the right direction would be = greatly appreciated.

As an aside, I have an automatic weather station here at Paradise = Beach that may be of interest to some. www.netspace.net.au/~hooked

CHEERS

Daryl Hooke (VK3AWA)

03 51463347

hooked at netspace.net.au

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Hi Ron,

Thanks for your comments.

> This change would make the management of the 145.175 interesting to =

> say the least. Currently = the VK5 network is heard locally from time

> to time.

I think it would make VHF APRS communications very challenging when = conditions where good for VHF DX. This could create channel traffic overload for = many of the Wide Area Digipeaters.

> Plans in NW Vic are to get relay digis at = Ouyen and Robinvale, = and

> later, one to the west on the = Sturt Hwy and north on = Silver City Hwy.

That's great to hear plans for increasing the coverage in the = north west of the state. One suggestion is to make the Digi at Ouyen a = WIDE Area Digi. You may find that one at Robinvale = need only be a Relay Digi to get into the Wide at Ouyen.

> I wonder how many others do run the above, and therefore need 2 sets =

> of Xtals. Everyone in VK that wants to use FM828 I = suspect.

I don’t believe there are too many mobile 828's these days. Most = people I know off around here are running VFO or PROM based radios for VHF APRS = if they don’t run a D700 or D7AG.

> I'm happy to contribute $100 as well as help where I = can.

Thanks for your contribution. Pledges now total = $675

Interestingly only 2 VK3 amateurs have pledged money to this project. All other = pledges have come from interstate.

> There are only 2 (please correct me if I'm wrong VK3RPG-2 and =

> VK3RMG-1) Licenced Digpeaters that need to be changed that are

> managed/owned by groups. All the other Digipeaters and Igates are

> licenced to (and funded by, I'd suspect) = private hams. The $2500 cost

> you quoted may be for the whole of VK3 = network, but I don't think that

> anywhere near that needs to be funded. I'd = think most of VK3 hams

> would happily fund and convert their own equipment to 145.175 when the =

> change were to take = place.

Equipment for all VK3 APRS Digipeaters (except the transceiver and TNC of = VK3RPG-2) was obtained by a few dedicated individuals through fundraising at local Ham = Fests as well as donations from a few other very generous people. All whom wanted to see the development and expansion of = the VK3 APRS network. These same few dedicated individuals have spent may hours finding sites, building and installing digipeaters.

I believe that it should not be left up to these same people to put in = additional effort and money to change what they already have supported. It is time = for others to contribute to the APRS network if the change in frequency is = to take effect.

Seven temporary test VK3 Digipeaters not located at amateurs home QTHs are in the process of being licensed. The Digipeaters were temporarily installed at sites to test site coverage. If the coverage is acceptable = the temporary digis are licensed as permanent = hill top repeaters. The local operator may not necessarily finance any part of = the digipeater installation.

> There would be pain in VK3 as the change to place now, but more pain =

> if it is left to a later = date.

I agree but to effect the change finances must = be raised and labor must be sort.

> I believe that the advantages outway the disadvantages to have VK3 on

> the National APRS = frequency.

From a social view = yes. Technically and economically however I believe the disadvantages out way = the advantages.

Cheers

Richard

VK3JFK

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If the freq change takes place we = are=20 prepared to do our bit for VK2RO-1 AT Tocumwal.

Regards Daryl

VK3KLN

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Richard=20 Hoskin

To: ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au= =20

Sent: Wednesday, October 15, = 2003 4:22=20 PM

Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Pros and = Cons of=20 changing VK3's APRS frequency

Hi=20 Ron,

Thanks for your=20 comments.

> This change = would=20 make the management of the 145.175 interesting to=20

> say the = least. Currently the VK5 network is = heard=20 locally from time

> to time.

I think it would = make VHF=20 APRS communications very challenging when conditions where good for = VHF DX.=20 This could create channel traffic overload for many of the Wide Area=20 Digipeaters.

> Plans in NW = Vic are=20 to get relay digis at Ouyen and Robinvale, = and=20

> later, one to the west on the=20 Sturt=20 Hwy = and north on=20 Silver City=20 Hwy.

That's great to = hear plans=20 for increasing the coverage in the = north=20 west = of the=20 state. One suggestion is to make the Digi at Ouyen a=20 WIDE Area Digi. You may find that one at Robinvale=20 need only be a Relay Digi to get into the Wide at Ouyen.

> I wonder = how many=20 others do run the above, and therefore need 2 sets=20

> of Xtals. = Everyone in VK that wants to use FM828 I=20 suspect.

I don=92t = believe there are=20 too many mobile 828's these days. Most people I know off around here = are=20 running VFO or PROM based radios for VHF APRS if they don=92t run a = D700 or=20 D7AG.

> I'm happy = to=20 contribute $100 as well as help where I = can.

Thanks for your=20 contribution. Pledges now total $675

Interestingly = only 2 VK3=20 amateurs have pledged money to this project. All other pledges have = come from=20 interstate.

> There are = only 2=20 (please correct me if I'm wrong VK3RPG-2 and =

> VK3RMG-1) = Licenced Digpeaters = that need to=20 be changed that are

> = managed/owned by=20 groups. All the other Digipeaters and Igates are=20

> licenced to (and funded by, I'd suspect) private = hams. The=20 $2500 cost

> you quoted may be for the whole of VK3 network, = but I don't=20 think that

> anywhere near that needs to be funded. I'd think = most of=20 VK3 hams

> would = happily fund=20 and convert their own equipment to 145.175 when the=20

> change were to take = place.

Equipment for = all VK3 APRS=20 Digipeaters (except the transceiver and TNC of VK3RPG-2) was obtained = by a few=20 dedicated individuals through fundraising at local Ham Fests as well = as=20 donations from a few other very generous people. All whom wanted to see the development and expansion = of the VK3=20 APRS network. These same few dedicated individuals have spent may hours finding sites, building and installing=20 digipeaters.

I believe that = it should=20 not be left up to these same people to put in additional effort and = money to=20 change what they already have supported. It is time for others to = contribute=20 to the APRS network if the change in frequency is to take=20 effect.

Seven temporary = test VK3=20 Digipeaters not located at amateurs home QTHs are in=20 the process of being licensed. The Digipeaters were temporarily = installed at=20 sites to test site coverage. If the coverage is acceptable the = temporary digis are licensed as permanent hill top = repeaters. The=20 local operator may not necessarily finance any part of the digipeater=20 installation.

> There would = be pain=20 in VK3 as the change to place now, but more pain =

> if it is left to a later = date.

I agree but to = effect the change finances must be raised and = labor must be=20 sort.

> I believe = that the=20 advantages outway the disadvantages to = have VK3 on=20

> the National APRS = frequency.

From a social = view=20 yes. Technically and = economically however I believe the disadvantages out way the=20 advantages.

Cheers

Richard

VK3JFK

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ozaprs = mailing=20 = list
ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au
http://marconi.ics.mq.edu.au/cgi-= bin/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs
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Ron asked;

>I have never disputed that we are on the wrong frequency. = Having=20 used
my radio on HF USB voice with xtal locked radios, being told to = "come=20 up
a bit", I found I was reading 200Hz above the nominated=20 frequency.
Considering this, my readout would be 10.147.8 for HF = packet with=20 the
KAM+..or thereabouts.

>My readout just "ticks" over to=20 10.147.9. This is what I was using to
resolve VK3MY-3. I had 2 = KAMplus'=20 one on UI-View and one on a Terminal,
both were decoding ok. with the = pair=20 1600/1800.

>Ok so far..?

>Now if I don't have a = problem,=20 then I'm 300Hz too high. If I do have a
problem maybe about 100Hz = high, but=20 nothing like the 500Hz that is being
suggested by Noel. ?? =

Well the answer isnt going to be easy Ron, I am not sure that = I have=20 it all worked out. What I do know is my desire for us all to = be at=20 one.

From an experiment I was a party to recently, it seemed that with = an=20 HF rig on low power and into a dummy load, and parked = outside our=20 house, we needed to tune that rig in 10 Hz steps (using the mic up/down = buttons)=20 to find the sweet spot for reliable decoding of its transmissions by my = home=20 station.

So lets see what we can make of your posting. I am as sure as = I can=20 be that VK3MY-3 has his transmissions on RF frequencies of 10.149.700 = and=20 10.149.900, or thereabouts within say 30 Hz, and obviously plus or minus = any=20 small rig differences we will all likely have. I concede that if I = really=20 wanted to, I could zero-zero my rig, but at the moment its more effort = than the=20 result deserves.

Well if the two frequencies above are about right, and you = have a=20 1600/1800 TNC and are on USB, then some arithmetic would suggest a = dial=20 frequency of 10.148.100, without the 200 Hz dial error that you = outlined. =20 I would like to say that 10.148.100 minus a 200 Hz dial error means you = tune=20 your rig to 10.147.900 (which is the frequency that you say you use) and = it is=20 all explained!

But if I have interpreted you right, the 200 Hz error you talk = about is in=20 the other direction - you speak of being low and having to come up = a=20 bit. Did they mean low in RF frequency, or low in audio = tone? =20 On USB raising the dial frequency lowers the audio tone. = Your=20 message indicates low as in dial frequency, which would be high in audio = sound. In other words if you tune to 10.147.900 you are really on=20 10.147.700? And so with a 1600/1800 TNC would be using 10.149.300 = and=20 10.149.500? And I dont have any other ideas to explain that = 400 Hz=20 difference.

It is a pity that in ZL our band plan prohibits SSB on 30m, because = a voice=20 contact between us using the band in question would be a good = check. =20 As an NZART Councillor I have to set a good example so dare not use = voice on 30m=20 or my hand would be smacked by somebody for sure!

Noel ZL3GR

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Hi Brian and all,

I am fully supportive of providing = coverage to=20 remote areas.

From time to time I drive the major = highway between=20 here in Central Qld to Brisbane, just under 600km. There is no vhf = coverage for=20 aprs, although there is vhf voice about 80% of the trip which is more = than the=20 mobile phone coverage, from 15km south of here until well into the = northern=20 suburbs of Brisbane. The trip wpuld not be considered to the = remote=20 areas.

So hf sounds like a = good idea.

The amount of current traffic heard = here is so=20 small that dx stations are a non-issue for now.

BTW, did you see the travels yesterday = of Frank,=20 vk4cau-9? It is the first time we have had an aprs equipped vehicle = travel along=20 the road from Biloela to Monto. There was good coverage until almost at = Monto=20 using the normal packet network here in CQ. Frank was using a=20 dm700.

Cheers

Ron

vk4ags

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Brian=20 Beamish

To: Vk3jfk at Amsat. Org ; OZAPRS

Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2004 = 20:07=20 PM

Subject: [OZAPRS] FW: DX or = Local which=20 is more important?

Hi=20 If you received this message twice I apologise but not realising it = until a=20 few minutes ago I have had a ISP problem most od the day all = incoming=20 mail arriving okay whilst I am unsure as to how much it would appear = that all=20 my out going mail has not made it.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Beamish=20 [mailto:bbeamish at bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Saturday, 17 April = 2004 4:56=20 PM
To: vk3jfk at amsat.org; ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au=
Subject:=20 DX or Local which is more important?

Hi Noel and Others

I personally could not agree more with = Richard if=20 there is to much concentration on working DX APRS instead of = local as was=20 and still should be the intent of APRS I can see some of us = being=20 forced eventually to working on an alternate frequency to cater for = those,=20 like myself for example, who intended eventually to be doing some = "Outback"=20 touring.

Great to see the occasional DX station = there but=20 surely as the mode grows particularly on HF our aim should be to cater = both=20 for VK and ZL travellers alike.

B C N U

Brian VK4BBS

----------------------------------------------= ----------

Hi=20 Noel,

It is good = to see=20 that the HF Gate systems are working = well.

We must = keep in mind=20 however the main purpose and original requirement for the APRS HF Gate = network=20 is to provide good reliable Local (VK/ZL) APRS communications to = mobile=20 vehicles in our area which our out of range of VHF APRS. If there is = too much=20 ‘DX’ then it will reduce the efficiency of the HF APRS = network and may=20 discourage locals from going APRS HF = Mobile.

There’s a lot of the=20 Ozzie Outback to be covered.

Cheers

Richard

VK3JFK

From:=20 ozaprs-bounces at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au=20 [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au] On Behalf Of Noel = Rowe
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2004 = 9:44=20 AM
To:=20 zlaprs at mail.nzart.org.nz; ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au
Subject: [OZAPRS] Heard on=20 30m.

Add to our ever growing heard list the=20 following, copied here in ZL=20 overnight:

IK2VPD - name = Max, =20 QTH Milan.

What I decoded was several parts of an = APRS=20 message or query. It was direct off 30m=20 HF.

Noel, = ZL3GR.

Hi,

From observations and comments when ECHO and = UIDIGI are turned on VK3MY-4 also digipeats posits with GATE in them back to = HF.

This is an ‘undocumented feature’ = of the KAM XL. I will tune UIDIGI back on with the ECHO facility for the time = being to allow for new comers to tune and experiment. When traffic levels = increase it will be turned off or migrated to MYAlias though that will not do = callsign substitution.

To allow get some idea of traffic levels on HF = is anyone able to run TRAFFIC on HF and send the report to VHF/IGate? Maybe = with a ‘Your CallSign’ of VK-HF.

I have had a very busy weekend and was not = able to get to make the HF APRS web page as planed.

Cheers

Richard

VK3JFK

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Hi All,

It appears that VK3RMD-1 was off air from = about 12:00 noon to 20:22 on Saturday.

From looking at the available information it = appears there may have been a power failure at the = site.

There is backup battery power on the = Digipeater but it appears the power failure was longer that the available battery = capacity.

VK3RMD-1 is currently operating = normally.

Cheers

Richard

VK3JFK

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Hi=20 Folks

I = am not trying=20 or even intending to stir up a hornets nest so please no flack just = constructive=20 criticism if any.

Des = VK4DMI-4 and=20 myself think along similar lines on this.

From = our experience=20 over a long period we find that with skip and band conditions = unlike=20 VHF where you can get a "Hit" just about every beacon quite often on HF = two or=20 three beacons, possibly more if conditions are not right, can easily not = get=20 heard in TOTAL by a gateway and this being = the case=20 will not be gated.

Normal = highway out=20 of town conditions where most HF Mobile APRS would take place could = easily put=20 you 50 to 100 Kms out, if we had perfect conditions all day and every = beacon was=20 copied and gated we agree 10-15 minutes beaconing would be fine = but in=20 actual fact this more often than not is not the=20 case.

As = there are at=20 present so few HF Mobile APRS stations operating and until such time as = we see a=20 reasonable increase in Mobiles that we feel beacons intervals of 1.5 to = 2 minute=20 intervals would be acceptable especially considering that not every HF = beacon is=20 gated and most of the day all one hears is the Gateways with their = occasional=20 beacons.

As an = example I have=20 been mobile for at least 1.5 hours over the past 24 hours beaconing then = at=20 every minute if you were to look at findu, at this moment, you would = find that=20 the last time VK4BBS-15 was gated was over 24 hours ago then by=20 VK3MY-4.

A = different tack to=20 the other suggestion we know but as my email reads food for=20 thought.

B C N=20 U

Brian=20 VK4BBS

PS: We = agree that it=20 would be great to see a gateway Alice Springs if that was=20 possible along a couple in VK6 all of which would be a = real bonus=20 of that there is no doubt.

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Hmm.. I see Richard is sugesting 10-15 = minutes and=20 Des is looking for 1.5 to 2 mins .. I said I was running 7 mins in the = mobile..=20 Good to see I am in the middle ground..

I would have to argue against the 1.5-2 = mins Des..=20 Most days of late in this last week Ive been seeing 4BBS 4CLM 4DMI when = its up=20 with regularity.. You may not have seen me driving around but Ive copied = all=20 yous guys up there both in the mobile and at home..

I started off this yesterday with the = observation=20 in regards to 2HL and his aprox 30 second beacons..

Its hit and miss at times on HF I agree = but 2HL was=20 at 10am getting about 50-70 percent of his beacons onto our VHF net here = and=20 into the Igate and likewise at 5pm when I got home he was getting 100 = percent of=20 them in.. It was actually creating a noticable difference in traffic = levels on=20 2m .. Hence my comments..

As stated previously the Hop seems to = be about 1000=20 km and as much as 2000km frequently.. That means I see VK3 most of the = time VK2=20 nearly all the time and VK4 as soon as the suns up.. Yep southern = VK8=20 would be a good spot for a Gate..

I think we have started to develop the = idea that=20 its very hard to get a posit through (as I know I was) but in reality we = have=20 had a severe lack of Gates that was not realised until = recently..

We need to be careful of a mentality = where we think=20 we will be able to get the mobile tracking on HF to be as frequent or = acurate as=20 VHF Metro nets.. This will never be the case.. Lets face it if I am = in the=20 middle of the desert a few Kms either way means nothing to most of us.. = If we=20 make camp at night or for a few days then the last known posit is a fair = guess=20 at being right..

Its interesting to see that we have not seen a posit from Andrew on = Findu=20 for over 9 Days up there in VK6 as well.. So now I am worried as to his = last=20 known posit being relavant.. I did copy him earlier this week in the = mobile and=20 he had started heading south towards Perth so hes probably near Broome I = guess=20 but that posit never got onto the net.. I would sugest we are better off = on 20m=20 now frankly for this path.. The occasional ZL on 30m seems to bob up = here giving=20 the impression that the path streches out at times but I guess in = VK2/4/3 you=20 would see ZLs more often.. As Ive said Ive had up to 10 stations on the = map in=20 the car with regularity and they are all east of here..

What we really need to look at with the = HF gates is=20 making sure whereever possible to put them in quiet locations.. Ive had = the good=20 fortune this last week or 2 to park the car in the hills on a job in the = middle=20 of a padock well away from the noises of suburbs etc and the difference = in the=20 map is amazing.. The signals that do decode and the distances are quite=20 impressive.. We know what its like with voice coms on HF to get a good = quiet=20 locality but how much more so with packet on HF..

Thers my bit..

Tony VK5AH

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Brian=20 Beamish

To: OZAPRS

Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 = 9:27=20 AM

Subject: [OZAPRS] HF MOBILE = beaconing,=20 food for thought.

Hi=20 Folks

I = am not=20 trying or even intending to stir up a hornets nest so please no flack = just=20 constructive criticism if any.

Des = VK4DMI-4 and=20 myself think along similar lines on this.

From = our=20 experience over a long period we find that with skip and = band=20 conditions unlike VHF where you can get a "Hit" just about every = beacon quite=20 often on HF two or three beacons, possibly more if conditions are not = right,=20 can easily not get heard in TOTAL by a = gateway=20 and this being the case will not be gated.

Normal highway out=20 of town conditions where most HF Mobile APRS would take place could = easily put=20 you 50 to 100 Kms out, if we had perfect conditions all day and every = beacon=20 was copied and gated we agree 10-15 minutes beaconing would be fine=20 but in actual fact this more often than not is not the=20 case.

As = there are at=20 present so few HF Mobile APRS stations operating and until such time = as we see=20 a reasonable increase in Mobiles that we feel beacons intervals of 1.5 = to 2=20 minute intervals would be acceptable especially considering that not = every HF=20 beacon is gated and most of the day all one hears is the Gateways with = their=20 occasional beacons.

As = an example I=20 have been mobile for at least 1.5 hours over the past 24 hours = beaconing then=20 at every minute if you were to look at findu, at this moment, you = would find=20 that the last time VK4BBS-15 was gated was over 24 hours ago then = by=20 VK3MY-4.

A = different tack=20 to the other suggestion we know but as my email reads food for=20 thought.

B C = N=20 U

Brian=20 VK4BBS

PS: = We agree that=20 it would be great to see a gateway Alice Springs if that was=20 possible along a couple in VK6 all of which would be a = real=20 bonus of that there is no doubt.

Hi All

= At last I see skip distance being talked about for APRS. It is no = different than SSB if you want to talk to a VK6 from VK2 you would depend the where we = are in the sunspot cycle, you would probably use 20M as this would give the = best signal. APRS is no different except you actually need a better signal to = noise ratio for AX25 data than voice. What this means is if we want reliable system = we need a wide spread of HF gateways so any packets have a fair chance of = reaching at least 1 gateway some where or we need gateways that are use more than 1 frequency and the user just changes frequency to suite conditions. =

I personally favour a mix of the 2 = options I have been a strong supporter of 40M as this band is very good for the = medium distance skip 200-500km. This band is better suited for the shorter = distances between gateways here in ZL. 30M is good for the 800-1200 km these skip = distances are for daylight hours as during darkness hours this all changes = dramatically. I usually see the VK 30M gateways here at dawn and dusk. We also need to = take into account the declining sunspot cycle as we continue to the bottom = over the next few years we will see the skip distances on 30 and 40 meters = increase.

Regards Rob Thirkettle = ZL3RX

Dept Physics & = Astronomy

University of Canterbury

Private Bag 4800,

Christchurch = 8020,

New Zealand

Tel: +64 3 364 = 2510

Fax: +64 3 364 = 2469

mailto:rob.thirkettle at canterbury.ac= .nz

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Hunt [mailto:wavetel at iname.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, = 2004 1:21 AM
To: = bbeamish at bigpond.net.au; ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] HF = MOBILE beaconing, food for thought.

Hmm.. I see Richard is = sugesting 10-15 minutes and Des is looking for 1.5 to 2 mins .. I said I was = running 7 mins in the mobile.. Good to see I am in the middle ground.. =

I would have to argue = against the 1.5-2 mins Des.. Most days of late in this last week Ive been seeing = 4BBS 4CLM 4DMI when its up with regularity.. You may not have seen me driving = around but Ive copied all yous guys up there both in the mobile and at = home..

I started off this = yesterday with the observation in regards to 2HL and his aprox 30 second = beacons..

Its hit and miss at times = on HF I agree but 2HL was at 10am getting about 50-70 percent of his beacons = onto our VHF net here and into the Igate and likewise at 5pm when I got home he = was getting 100 percent of them in.. It was actually creating a noticable difference in traffic levels on 2m .. Hence my = comments..

As stated previously the = Hop seems to be about 1000 km and as much as 2000km frequently.. That means I see = VK3 most of the time VK2 nearly all the time and VK4 as soon as the suns = up.. Yep southern VK8 would be a good spot for a Gate..

I think we have started to = develop the idea that its very hard to get a posit through (as I know I was) but = in reality we have had a severe lack of Gates that was not realised until recently..

We need to be careful of a = mentality where we think we will be able to get the mobile tracking on HF to be as frequent or acurate as VHF Metro nets.. This will never be the case.. = Lets face it if I am in the middle of the desert a few Kms either way means = nothing to most of us.. If we make camp at night or for a few days then the last = known posit is a fair guess at being right..

Its = interesting to see that we have not seen a posit from Andrew on Findu for over 9 Days up = there in VK6 as well.. So now I am worried as to his last known posit being = relavant.. I did copy him earlier this week in the mobile and he had started heading = south towards Perth so hes probably near Broome I guess but that posit never = got onto the net.. I would sugest we are better off on 20m now frankly for this = path.. The occasional ZL on 30m seems to bob up here giving the impression that = the path streches out at times but I guess in VK2/4/3 you would see ZLs more often.. As Ive said Ive had up to 10 stations on the map in the car with regularity and they are all east of here..

What we really need to look = at with the HF gates is making sure whereever possible to put them in quiet = locations.. Ive had the good fortune this last week or 2 to park the car in the = hills on a job in the middle of a padock well away from the noises of suburbs etc = and the difference in the map is amazing.. The signals that do decode and the = distances are quite impressive.. We know what its like with voice coms on HF to = get a good quiet locality but how much more so with packet on = HF..

Thers my bit.. =

Tony = VK5AH

----- Original Message = -----

From: Brian Beamish

To:<= /font> OZAPRS

Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:27 AM

Subject: [OZAPRS] HF MOBILE beaconing, food for thought.

Hi Folks

I am not trying or = even intending to stir up a hornets nest so please no flack just constructive criticism if any.

Des VK4DMI-4 and myself = think along similar lines on this.

From our experience over a long period we find that with skip and band conditions unlike = VHF where you can get a "Hit" just about every beacon quite often = on HF two or three beacons, possibly more if conditions are not right, can = easily not get heard in TOTAL by a gateway and this being the case will not be = gated.

Normal highway out of town conditions where most HF Mobile APRS would take place could easily put = you 50 to 100 Kms out, if we had perfect conditions all day and every beacon = was copied and gated we agree 10-15 minutes beaconing would be fine = but in actual fact this more often than not is not the = case.

As there are at present so = few HF Mobile APRS stations operating and until such time as we see a = reasonable increase in Mobiles that we feel beacons intervals of 1.5 to 2 minute = intervals would be acceptable especially considering that not every HF beacon is = gated and most of the day all one hears is the Gateways with their occasional beacons.

As an example I have been = mobile for at least 1.5 hours over the past 24 hours beaconing then at every minute = if you were to look at findu, at this moment, you would find that the last time VK4BBS-15 was gated was over 24 hours ago then by = VK3MY-4.

A different tack to the = other suggestion we know but as my email reads food for = thought.

B C N U

Brian = VK4BBS

PS: We agree that it would = be great to see a gateway Alice Springs if that was possible along a = couple in VK6 all of which would be a real bonus of that there is no = doubt.

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Hi I=20 sent this email out some time ago and it never seemed to make it to the = list, it=20 was titled then HF MOBILE beaconing, food for thought. It never made it = cant see=20 that I would be cut out possibly the title with "food for thought" = included in=20 it got it held as possible Spam would love to know why it did not = get out=20 just the same.

This=20 is my second attempt so apologies if you happen to get it twice but = after a=20 couple of hours with other OZAPRS traffic being sent after I have tried=20 again.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Beamish=20 [mailto:bbeamish at bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 July 2004 = 9:58=20 AM
To: OZAPRS
Subject: HF MOBILE beaconing, food for = thought.

Hi=20 Folks

I = am not trying=20 or even intending to stir up a hornets nest so please no flack just = constructive=20 criticism if any.

Des = VK4DMI-4 and=20 myself think along similar lines on this.

A = different tack to=20 the other suggestion we know but as my email reads food for=20 thought.

B C N=20 U

Brian=20 VK4BBS

PS: We = agree that it=20 would be great to see a gateway Alice Springs if that was=20 possible along a couple in VK6 all of which would be a = real bonus=20 of that there is no doubt.

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Hi,

Due to TNC problems VK3RGR-1 (Wangaratta = region) will be off air until Monday or Tuesday (26/07 or 27/07) of next = week.

This will reduce RF coverage and IGate = traffic on RF in NE Vic. but will not effect messaging or RF traffic from being sent = to the APRS Internet Servers (APRS IS) from NE Vic.

From initial investigations it appears as if = VK3RPG-2 may have started to corrupt some data packets. More investigation is = required to confirm this and if it is the case find out why it is = happening.

VK3RGI-1 is still in the process of being = repaired. It is expected to be fixed within the next few = months.

Cheers

Richard

VK3JFK

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HI Brian,

Sort of out of bed.

A couple of years ago I drove from Bris to = Roley, AOR,=20 just out of Oakey.

GME was good until the top of the range and = going around=20 Gowrie Mtn.

Maybe we can "provoke" Roley to put out a=20 beacon.

From memory when I lived on the Downs the = coverage to the=20 sw has not been very good.

Cheers

Ron

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Brian=20 Beamish

To: OZAPRS

Sent: Saturday, October 16, = 2004 2:28=20 PM

Subject: [OZAPRS] VK4RTW = personal=20 observation, VK4RAi-3, VK4GME-3,VK4VP and VK4DMI-4(HF)

Just = from personal=20 observations only, whilst unfortunately with no stations operating in = the=20 northern areas, I see that whilst VK4RTW has an excellent coverage to = the East=20 right into Brisbane it does not appear to have an coverage at all from = SSW=20 through to SSE not sure of its location guess there is a hill or two = blocking=20 coverage in that area.

I = suspect that it=20 will have excellent coverage from North around to South South East = (SSE) be=20 looking forward to see traffic heading out into the areas that I = suspect it=20 will cover very well. Will be very interesting to know its coverage in = and=20 around Toowoomba itself and out into the Darling = downs.

This = morning I=20 have noticed VK5KFB-9 and VK4CUA-9 mobile.

It = was interesting=20 to not that whilst it moved from one to another as VK5KFB-9 passed = through=20 this area it had excellent results all the way through with both = VK4GME-3 and=20 VK4RAI-3 covering it just about all the way but not one beacon was = seen to=20 pass through VK4RTW-3 which enforces my belief that it does not cover = the SSE=20 to SSW west area at all. Even when VK5KFB-5 pass over the range and on = top of=20 the range at Cunningham's Gap VK4RTW-3 I am sure did not see=20 it.

VK4CUA-9 has=20 covered the area that Des VK4DMI have tested previously and it was = good to see=20 that VK4RAI-3 covered some of the pockets previously missed=20 out.

I = feel that with=20 VK4GME-3 and VK4RAI-3 we have excellent VHF coverage South and West to = the=20 range and even slightly beyond there are some dead spots in and around = the=20 Gold Coast that a local Gold Coast digipeater would take care of. I = believe=20 that the local Gold Coast digi will be back on = shortly.

We = really need to=20 know the coverage of both VK4RTW-3 and the Gateway VK4VP on the = Sunshine coast=20 both of which are really unknown at present, all the traffic appears = to be in=20 the southern area of SEQ be interesting to see other traffic around in = other=20 areas particularly those covered by VK4VP and = VK4RTW-3.

Regarding HF=20 coverage of late we would appear to have reasonable coverage, subject = to band=20 conditions, just about anywhere at present.

The VK4DMI-4=20 HF gateway appears to be carrying the majority of HF traffic that is = heard=20 within the range covered by it's skip, whilst local HF traffic is = favoured by=20 the skip to the VK3 and ZL HF gateways.

Be = interested to=20 hear from others in the South East corner of VK4 along with coverage = of=20 digipeaters in other areas of the state.

Any = one aware of=20 any digipeaters or gateways in the Northern Rivers or adjacent areas = of=20 VK2?

B C = N=20 U

Brian=20 VK4BBS

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------=_NextPart_001_5332_01C8758C.3C68C6F0-- ------=_NextPart_000_5331_01C8758C.3C68C6F0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT07158.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT07158.txt" _______________________________________________ ozaprs mailing list ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au http://marconi.ics.mq.edu.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs ------=_NextPart_000_5331_01C8758C.3C68C6F0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Sun Aug 23 09:03:27 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:03:27 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: is much more interesting, so a great distraction), the VK8LM-4 beacon below does not include any location information - it is just a straight beacon, so will not generate an APRS icon. It is unlikely you will see corruped beacons, your TNC will not deliver these to your computer unless you have PASSALL on, which defeats the AX-25 protocol. You should always be seeing just what is transmitted, the problem is likley to be at the sender, rather than the path. 73, Alan -----Original Message----- From: Brian Beamish Sent: Mon 9/05/2005 12:24 PM To: Alan Wallace (ZL1AMW); ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au Cc: Subject: RE: [OZAPRS] VK5EX-4 Hi Alan Thanks for your reply and interest I did not copy or keep that section of the terminal page it was though interesting to note that VK8LM's Icon in a similar location later in the morning also did not appear but both VK5EX and VK8LM did appear later in the day, I guess that it was a matter of only receiving a partial beacon and not a complete one from them at that time. It was only the fact that I happened to be looking at the bar at the bottom of the window that I saw VK5EX there and not appearing on the map, so went looking at the terminal and saw that it had happened, at that time, several times. Whilst entering this email I have just seen VK8LM appear in my terminal window and again not appearing on the map this time I did catch a copy of the window I guess that the path between us is marginal here just at present and I have not actually received a complete beacon or perhaps a corrupted one. I bet later in the day all will be okay again. I have an RDO today hence the prompt reply, raining (showers only) here hope we get days of it and in our catchment area as we are desperate may have to run a pipe line over to ZL soon to get some of yours. Thanks again 73s Brian 09:12:17R VK3MY-4>APRS : !3751.54SG14518.28E& / APRS 10Mhz Net Station (2) 09:12:20R VK3MY-4>APRS,GATE,WIDE : )30m-GATE!3751.54SG14518.28E& APRS HF To VHF Gateway On 10.147.60Mhz USB 09:13:35R VK4DMI-4>APU25N,GATE,WIDE : ;30M GATE *052248z2715.31S/15258.73E&HF Gateway 10.147.600 Mhz USB 300 Baud 09:14:30T VK4BBS>APU25N,GATE,WIDE : =2739.48S\15303.62E-,Browns Plains, Logan City, Qld. {UIV32N} 09:21:01R VK8LM-4>APND0Y,GATE,WIDE : >DIGI_NED: HF/VHF GateWay system - GATE ECHO TUNE 09:22:16R VK3MY-4>APRS,GATE,WIDE : )30m-GATE!3751.54SG14518.28E& APRS HF To VHF Gateway On 10.147.60Mhz USB 09:27:14R VK2KCM-1>APU25N,GATE,TRACE2-2 : =\_Cd)tdYL- BMixw {UIV32N} 09:27:19R VK3MY-4>APRS,GATE : !3751.54ST14518.28E# / APRS 10Mhz Gate (1) 09:27:21R VK3MY-4>APRS : !3751.54SG14518.28E& / APRS 10Mhz Net Station (2) ------=_NextPart_001_4F2A_01C8758B.DEDD7B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [OZAPRS] VK5EX-4

Hi Brian - nothing spare from this part of NZ to pipe = over your way - while the weather here has not been too extreem, it has = been a rather dry growing season for our agriculture too.

From a quick glance (I am supposed to be working at = the moment, but this is much more interesting, so a great distraction), = the VK8LM-4 beacon below does not include any location information - it = is just a straight beacon, so will not generate an APRS icon.

It is unlikely you will see corruped beacons, your TNC = will not deliver these to your computer unless you have PASSALL on, = which defeats the AX-25 protocol. You should always be seeing just = what is transmitted, the problem is likley to be at the sender, rather = than the path.

73,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From:   Brian Beamish
Sent:   Mon 9/05/2005 12:24 PM
To:     Alan Wallace (ZL1AMW); = ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au
Cc:
Subject:        = RE: [OZAPRS] VK5EX-4
Hi Alan

Thanks for your reply and interest I did not copy or = keep that section of
the terminal page it was though interesting to note = that VK8LM's Icon in a
similar location later in the morning also did not = appear but both VK5EX and
VK8LM did appear later in the day, I guess that it = was a matter of only
receiving a partial beacon and not a complete one = from them at that time.

It was only the fact that I happened to be looking at = the bar at the bottom
of the window that I saw VK5EX there and not = appearing on the map, so went
looking at the terminal and saw that it had happened, = at that time, several
times.

Whilst entering this email I have just seen VK8LM = appear in my terminal
window and again not appearing on the map this time I = did catch a copy of
the window I guess that the path between us is = marginal here just at present
and I have not actually received a complete beacon or = perhaps a corrupted
one. I bet later in the day all will be okay = again.

I have an RDO today hence the prompt reply, raining = (showers only) here hope
we get days of it and in our catchment area as we are = desperate may have to
run a pipe line over to ZL soon to get some of = yours.

Thanks again

73s Brian

09:12:17R VK3MY-4>APRS <UI Len=3D50>:
!3751.54SG14518.28E& / APRS 10Mhz Net Station = (2)
09:12:20R VK3MY-4>APRS,GATE,WIDE <UI = Len=3D73>:
)30m-GATE!3751.54SG14518.28E& APRS HF To VHF = Gateway On 10.147.60Mhz USB
09:13:35R VK4DMI-4>APU25N,GATE,WIDE <UI C = Len=3D76>:
;30M GATE *052248z2715.31S/15258.73E&HF Gateway = 10.147.600 Mhz USB 300 Baud
09:14:30T VK4BBS>APU25N,GATE,WIDE <UI C = Len=3D62>:
=3D2739.48S\15303.62E-,Browns Plains, Logan City, = Qld. {UIV32N}
09:21:01R VK8LM-4>APND0Y,GATE,WIDE <UI R = Len=3D50>:
>DIGI_NED: HF/VHF GateWay system - GATE ECHO = TUNE
09:22:16R VK3MY-4>APRS,GATE,WIDE <UI = Len=3D73>:
)30m-GATE!3751.54SG14518.28E& APRS HF To VHF = Gateway On 10.147.60Mhz USB
09:27:14R VK2KCM-1>APU25N,GATE,TRACE2-2 <UI C = Len=3D28>:
=3D\_Cd)tdYL- BMixw {UIV32N}
09:27:19R VK3MY-4>APRS,GATE <UI = Len=3D43>:
!3751.54ST14518.28E# / APRS 10Mhz Gate (1)
09:27:21R VK3MY-4>APRS <UI Len=3D50>:
!3751.54SG14518.28E& / APRS 10Mhz Net Station = (2)

------=_NextPart_001_4F2A_01C8758B.DEDD7B20-- ------=_NextPart_000_4F29_01C8758B.DEDD7B20 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT12117.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT12117.txt" _______________________________________________ ozaprs mailing list ozaprs at marconi.ics.mq.edu.au http://marconi.ics.mq.edu.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs ------=_NextPart_000_4F29_01C8758B.DEDD7B20-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Sun Aug 23 09:03:27 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:03:27 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://tf8bk.famutne.net/aprs_tech.html#gen General notes on new APRS setup Prior to continuing with more detailed instructions on different setups, I just want to mention that there has been some discussions lately on what is the best setup for APRS. After extensive communication with both Bob Bruninga (WB4APR) and Sysops within Norway, we are now left with a recommended common structure for APRS setup: a.. WIDE3-3 for relay via stand-alone Digipeaters b.. WIDE1-1 for relay via Fill-in Digis c.. NORn-N (as SSn-N) which may be used nationally for relay via stand-alone Digipeaters d.. This also means that TRACEn-N is no longer available for use Some may wonder what happened to RELAY after general implementation of WIDEn-N? Well, you will actually benefit from not using RELAY, as any Digipeater type will immediately recognize WIDE1-1 in the future, both Fill-in and stand-alone Digipeaters. In this way, you as a user need only to remember one single parameter for all kinds of relay, namely WIDEn-N. This solution demands correct contents of two unique Digipeater parameters (UIFLOOD and UITRACE) in order for us to obtain the expected effect, namely reduced traffic strain on the frequency (traffic volume and unnecessary QRM), without loss of data. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Sun Aug 23 09:03:27 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:03:27 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://www.aprs.pl/europe.htm 144.800 MHz is the APRS Network Frequency in Europe WIDEn-n for base stations and WIDE1-1,WIDEn-n for mobile stations are the most recommended packet paths for APRS activity in Europe. Keep n number in WIDEn-n as low as possible, i.e. WIDE2-2 or WIDE3-3. Then you do not become the source of QRM for the network. Visiting Poland you can use in your mobile the European standard packet path WIDE1-1,WIDEn-n. In some areas n is restricted to n???3 or even n???2. Moreover, in the entire country you can use WIDE1-1,SPn-n which is not restricted to n value. Switching WIDEn-n to be fully traceable path is in the progress. Check the dynamic coverage map with tracks sent on RF in the last 31 days. Red points are sent on the air, yellow ones came directly to the server. Another from Italy was also suggestig the same as above. Mike, VK2INT. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:57:44 -0400 > From: "Robert Bruninga" > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v US new paradigm > To: "'VK / ZL APRS Users'" > Message-ID: <200610231558.ALR43377 at usna.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> digis will accept only paths set to the following; >> >> RELAY,WIDE >> RELAY,WIDE2-2 >> WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2 >> >> Using the EU version of the new paradigm will mean >> that 90% of stations will not have to do anything to >> their Tracker and Home station settings. This >> will save a lot of confusion for Operators. > > A very minor point to followup on that... > > Since one of the purposes of the New-N paradigm was to eliminate > confusion, retaining RELAY and WIDE and WIDEn-N seems like it > retains the "confusion" for 90% of the users since they "don't > have to change" and does nothing to get users simplified up to > the new simplified approach. > > I fully understand a desire to be backwards compatible to > existing users that use WIDE by iteself, but then if you > continue to support it, then they will continue to use it and so > your docs, your network, and your future system will also still > use it. So the flip side is to just go cold turkey and make the > change and then let the WIDE users also change. And if you are > making these changes and getting everyone ton consider the > future, why not drop RELAY too so that if someone does want to > use a KPC-3 TNC down there, that it wont cause the RELAY dupe > problem. > > But again, please dissregard this kibitzing from afar, since > your network is smaller and more limited. But the above was > some of the discussion we had back here in the USA when we all > decided to go with the New-N system... > > Good luck! > Bob, WB4APR > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > End of Ozaprs Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20 > ************************************** > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: > 23/10/2006 > > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs ------=_NextPart_000_BB90_01C8BF68.3E113C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [OZAPRS] Ozaprs Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20

I would tend to agree with our American friend on = changing to the New-N
paradigm . A "European new n-n paradigm" = Google search came up with these
examples of suggested EU path settings.

From Norway,

http://tf8bk.famutne= .net/aprs_tech.html#gen
General notes on new APRS setup

Prior to continuing with more detailed instructions on = different setups, I
just want to mention that there has been some = discussions lately on what is
the best setup for APRS. After extensive = communication with both Bob
Bruninga (WB4APR) and Sysops within Norway, we are = now left with a
recommended common structure for APRS setup:

a.. WIDE3-3 for relay via stand-alone = Digipeaters
b.. WIDE1-1 for relay via Fill-in Digis
c.. NORn-N (as SSn-N) which may be used = nationally for relay via
stand-alone Digipeaters
d.. This also means that TRACEn-N is no longer = available for use
Some may wonder what happened to RELAY after general = implementation of
WIDEn-N? Well, you will actually benefit from not = using RELAY, as any
Digipeater type will immediately recognize WIDE1-1 in = the future, both
Fill-in and stand-alone Digipeaters. In this way, you = as a user need only to
remember one single parameter for all kinds of relay, = namely WIDEn-N.

This solution demands correct contents of two unique = Digipeater parameters
(UIFLOOD and UITRACE) in order for us to obtain the = expected effect, namely
reduced traffic strain on the frequency (traffic = volume and unnecessary
QRM), without loss of data.

----------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------

From Poland

http://www.aprs.pl/europe.htm<= /FONT>

144.800 MHz is the APRS Network Frequency in = Europe

WIDEn-n for base stations and WIDE1-1,WIDEn-n for = mobile stations are the
most recommended packet paths for APRS activity in = Europe. Keep n number in
WIDEn-n as low as possible, i.e. WIDE2-2 or WIDE3-3. = Then you do not become
the source of QRM for the network.

Visiting Poland you can = use in your mobile the European standard
packet path WIDE1-1,WIDEn-n. In some areas n is restricted to = n=E2=89=A43 or even=20
n=E2=89=A42. Moreover, in the entire country you can use = WIDE1-1,SPn-n which is not=20
restricted to n value.

Switching WIDEn-n to be = fully traceable path is in the progress.

Check the dynamic = coverage map with tracks sent on RF in the last 31
days. Red points are sent on the air, yellow ones = came directly to the
server.

Another from Italy was also suggestig the same as = above.

Mike, VK2INT.

> = ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:57:44 -0400
> From: "Robert Bruninga" = <bruninga at usna.edu>
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v US new = paradigm
> To: "'VK / ZL APRS Users'" = <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
> Message-ID: = <200610231558.ALR43377 at usna.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; = charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
>> digis will accept only paths set to the = following;
>>
>> RELAY,WIDE
>> RELAY,WIDE2-2
>> WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2
>>
>> Using the EU version of the new paradigm = will mean
>> that 90% of stations will not have to do = anything to
>> their Tracker and Home station settings. = This
>> will save a lot of confusion for = Operators.
>
> A very minor point to followup on that...
>
> Since one of the purposes of the New-N paradigm = was to eliminate
> confusion, retaining RELAY and WIDE and WIDEn-N = seems like it
> retains the "confusion" for 90% of the = users since they "don't
> have to change" and does nothing to get = users simplified up to
> the new simplified approach.
>
> I fully understand a desire to be backwards = compatible to
> existing users that use WIDE by iteself, but = then if you
> continue to support it, then they will continue = to use it and so
> your docs, your network, and your future system = will also still
> use it. So the flip side is to just go = cold turkey and make the
> change and then let the WIDE users also = change. And if you are
> making these changes and getting everyone ton = consider the
> future, why not drop RELAY too so that if = someone does want to
> use a KPC-3 TNC down there, that it wont cause = the RELAY dupe
> problem.
>
> But again, please dissregard this kibitzing from = afar, since
> your network is smaller and more limited. = But the above was
> some of the discussion we had back here in the = USA when we all
> decided to go with the New-N system...
>
> Good luck!
> Bob, WB4APR
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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> Ozaprs mailing list
> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au
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>
>
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>
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>
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------=_NextPart_000_BB90_01C8BF68.3E113C00-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Sun Aug 23 09:03:27 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:03:27 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: WIDEn-n floods equally in ALL directions with dozens if not almost 100 copies of your transmitted data. We can not afford this QRM in our network. If each digi can hear 3 others, including the original here is the resulting number of Copies at each HOP: This is if the original packet hit TWO digis at the beginning and each digi can hear 3 others. SETTING 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th TOTAL ------- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ----- WIDE1-1 2 2 WIDE2-2 2 4 6 WIDE3-3 2 4 8 14 WIDE4-4 2 4 8 10 24 WIDE5-5 2 4 8 10 14 38 WIDE6-6 2 4 8 10 14 16 54 WIDE7-7 2 4 8 10 14 16 20 74 ?????????. Each state needs to decide the maximum number of hops required so that they can set a guide to configure consistent digipeater parameters. Changing the subject slightly, I don???t think we should refer to digi hops as Wide2-2 or Wide3-3 etc as this becomes confused with the literal path settings. Cheers Richard VK3JFK ---- vk7arn wrote: > Andrew > > Answer - depends. Are we talking: > > reaching an Igate reliably, or > reaching a reliable Igate > reaching a reliable digi which reaches a reliable Igate > > Current situation in Tas is (to the best of my knowledge) - > - The key digi RAA is off air due to a blown fuse (requires a bit of an > expedition to fix). > - The antenna on RAA which reliably reaches the south of Tas is in need of > attention by a qualified rigger (tower rules) so a temporary one is in use > (when > the fuse is not blown) which rarely reaches the southern digis > (propogation > dependant). > - There doesn't appear to be an Igate in the north east of Tas - depends > on > north west Igate being fed by RAA in the north east. > - There was an Igate in the east of the north west but has been off for > some > time, leaving a bit of a hole in the middle. > - There are still many areas in Tas which do not have affordable, > dependable > broadband access. > - There are lots of big hills and deep valleys in Tas. > > There are some of us who would like to see whole of State coverage and are > working towards it. Dick VK7DIK's new digi at RWC on the West Coast, > feeding > his Igate in the valley below has made a tremendous difference. Wide > coverage > is going to need a variety of solutions, which may involve WIDE3-3 > > What I'm saying is, for all sorts of reasons, in Tas at least, there needs > to be > redundancy in the system. > > Why not have words to the effect that WIDE2-2 is the default, with a note > that > special circumstances may dictate WIDE3-3, but this should only be applied > following consultation on requirements with the local System Operators > (and try > to maintain a list of who they are?). > > To put things in a context, in April 2007 there will be several Amateurs > in APRS > equipped cars driving round the state working as volunteer comms Officials > on > Targa Tasmania. This provides a tremendous opportunity to challenge > knowledge > and skills AND will provide a wonderful "spectator" event. Beats watching > Fred > drive to work each morning and checking the temperature at Joe's place! > Could > even supply a map with all the Targa stages marked! > > Cheers > > Roger vk7arn > > PS Maybe one of you aeronautical types would like to fly round Tassie for > the > week with your airborne digi! > PPS I'm reliably informed that the article on APRS coverage of the > Tasmanian > Safari heat of the Australian Rally chamionship will be in November's A.R. > mag. > The interesting aspect is how we used the one frequency for voice and > APRS. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On > Behalf > Of Andrew McDade > Sent: Friday, 10 November 2006 08:38 > To: Tony Hunt; VK / ZL APRS Users > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting > +confusion.... > > > I guess the question we need to ask, is whether 2 hops will allow ALL aprs > stations within Australia to reach an Igate reliably. > > If we have a situation where all stations can hit an Igate in 2 hops or > less then well and good, WIDE2-2 is definitely the way to go. But if there > are still some areas that require 3 hops to achieve this, then where are > we > with regards to a standard, default, documentable, promotable Nation Wide > config for general APRS users. > > I would hate to see a situation where we've got different default configs > for different areas ie. WIDE2-2 for some areas and WIDE3-3 for others. I > think this would be a regressive step. > > So the question again , are there any areas within Australia that require > 3 > ( or more ) hops to reliably access an Igate ? > > Regards .. Andrew .. VK5EX > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Hunt" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting > +confusion.... > > > > Whats this idea I see of WIDE3-3 for home stations?? Currently we > > recomend and use predominantly WIDE2-2 in Adelaide .. If we use > > WIDE3-3 then we will cross the border to Mildura and Ouyen .. Is there > > any need for this many hops if all satations are within 2 hops of an > > Igate ?? WIDE3-3 will just increase the amount of traffic in our > > situation and likely insure alot of VK3 traffic right through to Pt > > Linclon instead of just the occasional bit here and there.. > > > > Or are we going to recomend WIDE3-3 and then Trap the last hop in the > > digis > > which is one approach.. > > > > Ive seen this WIDE3-3 mentioned a couple of times now and thought it > > must have been a typo at first .. > > > > Also 50 stations within 50miles of Adelaide.. I concur with Terry.. We > > must > > be on a different map or planet to Bob .. Our Igate shows about 15 > > locals > > presently which is about normal > > http://121.44.67.103:14501/ > > There are 23 VK5s currently listed on my Client here some of which are > > via > > the Igate and not on RF.. > > > > There are about 40 listed here but about 1/2 of them are over a day > > old > > with > > no recent posits. > > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?vk5* > > > > 50 Stations!! I gota to see that .. Talk about rush hour in Adelaide.. > > We are just an oversized country town here and pleased to be that > > way.. > > > > Melbourne is the traffic worry on 2m APRS from what Ive experienced.. > > > > Tony Hunt VK5AH > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> Your thoughts Richard 3JFK too please. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Ron > >> > >> On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 11:06 +0800, Chris Hill wrote: > >> > Hi All, > >> > > >> > May I suggest the following "KISS" outcome for APRS in VK: > >> > > >> > > >> > 1. Mobiles set path to "APRS v WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2" > >> > > >> > 2. Home users set path to "APRS v WIDE3-3" > >> > > > > > Bob Said > > > >> Boy was I wrong. I just zoomed on the first call I saw and found > >> that even Adelade is probably just about optimally loaded and cannot > >> afford much coming in from say Melbourne without having some impact > >> on throughput. I see 50 stations within 50 miles of Adelade and that > >> is about as high as you want to go without losing reliability for > >> small trackers. > >> > >> Then I zoomed in on Melbourne and see that it is as dense as some of > >> our highest density cities in the USA! We use WIDE2-2 in those > >> areas... (see MAP on > >> http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs/fix14439.html > >> > >> Seeing these maps, I now am convinced that you are on the right track > >> to implement the New-N paradigm measures to help improve the > >> reliability of local area APRS. And since these population densities > >> seem quite well focused with big gaps inbetween, then it does make > >> sense to limit the WIDEn-N hops so that mobiles in one area are not > >> QRMING long distances away to the other areas... > >> > >> Great work! > >> Bob, Wb4APR > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ozaprs mailing list > > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.32/523 - Release Date: > > 11/7/2006 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs ------=_NextPart_000_B718_01C8BF68.23062B50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting = +confusion....

Gday,

The idea to limit the number of digi hops in an area = depends on the local area and its network configuration. In VK3 we have = a good network with well established IGates so 2 hops works well to get = your data to one or more IGates.

In other areas such as VK7 or VK4 this may not be the = case and you may need 3 or 4 hops to get your data to the closest = IGate.

However it is important you don=E2=80=99t use more = digi hops than you really need to get your data to the closest = IGate.

Remember though that if you need 3 hops to get to an = IGate the chances are that your data will have a big impact on the = over-all RF network traffic. This will have an effect on your = neighbour.

From WB4APR's web pages....

WIDEn-n floods equally in ALL directions with dozens = if not almost 100 copies of your transmitted data. We can not afford = this QRM in our network. If each digi can hear 3 others, including the = original here is the resulting number of Copies at each HOP:

This is if the original packet hit TWO digis at
the beginning and each digi can hear 3 others.

SETTING 1st 2nd 3rd 4th = 5th 6th 7th TOTAL
------- --- --- --- --- = --- --- --- -----
WIDE1-1    = 2            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;         2
WIDE2-2    2    = 4            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   6
WIDE3-3    2    = 4    = 8            =             &= nbsp;         14
WIDE4-4    2    = 4    8    = 10            = ;            =    24
WIDE5-5    2    = 4    8    10   = 14            = ;        38
WIDE6-6    2    = 4    8    10   14   = 16            = ; 54
WIDE7-7    2    = 4    8    10   14   = 16   20        74
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.

Each state needs to decide the maximum number of hops = required so that they can set a guide to configure consistent digipeater = parameters.

Changing the subject slightly, I don=E2=80=99t think = we should refer to digi hops as Wide2-2 or Wide3-3 etc as this becomes = confused with the literal path settings.

Cheers
Richard
VK3JFK

---- vk7arn <vk7arn at bigpond.com> wrote:
> Andrew
>
> Answer - depends. Are we talking:
>
> reaching an Igate reliably, or
> reaching a reliable Igate
> reaching a reliable digi which reaches a = reliable Igate
>
> Current situation in Tas is (to the best of my = knowledge) -
> - The key digi RAA is off air due to a blown = fuse (requires a bit of an
> expedition to fix).
> - The antenna on RAA which reliably reaches the = south of Tas is in need of
> attention by a qualified rigger (tower rules) so = a temporary one is in use (when
> the fuse is not blown) which rarely reaches the = southern digis (propogation
> dependant).
> - There doesn't appear to be an Igate in the = north east of Tas - depends on
> north west Igate being fed by RAA in the north = east.
> - There was an Igate in the east of the north = west but has been off for some
> time, leaving a bit of a hole in the = middle.
> - There are still many areas in Tas which do not = have affordable, dependable
> broadband access.
> - There are lots of big hills and deep valleys = in Tas.
>
> There are some of us who would like to see whole = of State coverage and are
> working towards it. Dick VK7DIK's new digi = at RWC on the West Coast, feeding
> his Igate in the valley below has made a = tremendous difference. Wide coverage
> is going to need a variety of solutions, which = may involve WIDE3-3
>
> What I'm saying is, for all sorts of reasons, in = Tas at least, there needs to be
> redundancy in the system.
>
> Why not have words to the effect that WIDE2-2 is = the default, with a note that
> special circumstances may dictate WIDE3-3, but = this should only be applied
> following consultation on requirements with the = local System Operators (and try
> to maintain a list of who they are?).
>
> To put things in a context, in April 2007 there = will be several Amateurs in APRS
> equipped cars driving round the state working as = volunteer comms Officials on
> Targa Tasmania. This provides a tremendous = opportunity to challenge knowledge
> and skills AND will provide a wonderful = "spectator" event. Beats watching Fred
> drive to work each morning and checking the = temperature at Joe's place! Could
> even supply a map with all the Targa stages = marked!
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger vk7arn
>
> PS Maybe one of you aeronautical types = would like to fly round Tassie for the
> week with your airborne digi!
> PPS I'm reliably informed that the article on = APRS coverage of the Tasmanian
> Safari heat of the Australian Rally chamionship = will be in November's A.R. mag.
> The interesting aspect is how we used the one = frequency for voice and APRS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net= .au] On Behalf
> Of Andrew McDade
> Sent: Friday, 10 November 2006 08:38
> To: Tony Hunt; VK / ZL APRS Users
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v = USnewparadigmand pathlimiting +confusion....
>
>
> I guess the question we need to ask, is whether = 2 hops will allow ALL aprs
> stations within Australia to reach an Igate = reliably.
>
> If we have a situation where all stations = can hit an Igate in 2 hops or
> less then well and good, WIDE2-2 is definitely = the way to go. But if there
> are still some areas that require 3 hops to = achieve this, then where are we
> with regards to a standard, default, = documentable, promotable Nation Wide
> config for general APRS users.
>
> I would hate to see a situation where we've got = different default configs
> for different areas ie. WIDE2-2 for some areas = and WIDE3-3 for others. I
> think this would be a regressive step.
>
> So the question again , are there any areas = within Australia that require 3
> ( or more ) hops to reliably access an Igate = ?
>
> Regards .. Andrew .. VK5EX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Hunt" = <wavetel at bigpond.com>
> To: <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v = USnewparadigmand pathlimiting
> +confusion....
>
>
> > Whats this idea I see of WIDE3-3 for home = stations?? Currently we
> > recomend and use predominantly WIDE2-2 in = Adelaide .. If we use
> > WIDE3-3 then we will cross the border to = Mildura and Ouyen .. Is there
> > any need for this many hops if all = satations are within 2 hops of an
> > Igate ?? WIDE3-3 will just increase the = amount of traffic in our
> > situation and likely insure alot of VK3 = traffic right through to Pt
> > Linclon instead of just the occasional bit = here and there..
> >
> > Or are we going to recomend WIDE3-3 and = then Trap the last hop in the
> > digis
> > which is one approach..
> >
> > Ive seen this WIDE3-3 mentioned a couple of = times now and thought it
> > must have been a typo at first ..
> >
> > Also 50 stations within 50miles of = Adelaide.. I concur with Terry.. We
> > must
> > be on a different map or planet to Bob .. = Our Igate shows about 15 locals
> > presently which is about normal
> > http://121.44.67.103:14501/
> > There are 23 VK5s currently listed on my = Client here some of which are via
> > the Igate and not on RF..
> >
> > There are about 40 listed here but about = 1/2 of them are over a day
> > old
> > with
> > no recent posits.
> > http://www.findu.com/= cgi-bin/find.cgi?vk5*
> >
> > 50 Stations!! I gota to see that .. Talk = about rush hour in Adelaide..
> > We are just an oversized country town here = and pleased to be that
> > way..
> >
> > Melbourne is the traffic worry on 2m APRS = from what Ive experienced..
> >
> > Tony Hunt VK5AH
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> Your thoughts Richard 3JFK too = please.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 11:06 +0800, = Chris Hill wrote:
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > May I suggest the following = "KISS" outcome for APRS in VK:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 1. Mobiles set path to = "APRS v WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2"
> >> >
> >> > 2. Home users set path to = "APRS v WIDE3-3"
> >> >
> >
> > Bob Said
> >
> >> Boy was I wrong. I just zoomed on = the first call I saw and found
> >> that even Adelade is probably just = about optimally loaded and cannot
> >> afford much coming in from say = Melbourne without having some impact
> >> on throughput. I see 50 stations = within 50 miles of Adelade and that
> >> is about as high as you want to go = without losing reliability for
> >> small trackers.
> >>
> >> Then I zoomed in on Melbourne and see = that it is as dense as some of
> >> our highest density cities in the = USA! We use WIDE2-2 in those
> >> areas... (see MAP on
> >> http://www.e= w.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs/fix14439.html
> >>
> >> Seeing these maps, I now am convinced = that you are on the right track
> >> to implement the New-N paradigm = measures to help improve the
> >> reliability of local area APRS. = And since these population densities
> >> seem quite well focused with big gaps = inbetween, then it does make
> >> sense to limit the WIDEn-N hops so that = mobiles in one area are not
> >> QRMING long distances away to the other = areas...
> >>
> >> Great work!
> >> Bob, Wb4APR
> >>
> >
> >
> > = _______________________________________________
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> > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au
> > http://aprs.net.au/ma= ilman/listinfo/ozaprs
> >
> >
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> >
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> appear on the D700 screen when they have been = HFing.
>
> Oh and thanks for the great 10K:1 map of Tassie, = magic, used the script
> within XASTIR to convert and bingo!
>
> Had a big play with Darryl's NETaprs program to = send packets from AGPWE
> (or any server) to Oziexplorer. Excellent! = Especially with the 50K:1
> maps in Ozi...if every HAM interested donated a = wee sum it'd terrific to
> see Darryl finish it off, well done!
>
> Chees de Rod, VK5KFB
>
>
>
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------=_NextPart_000_A09A_01C8BF67.AAEF5F10-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Sun Aug 23 09:03:27 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:03:27 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Members of this List On Sunday 28 October 2007, the President of NZART Bruce Douglas ZL2WP announced on the NZART Official Broadcast that all NZART Email Lists or Reflectors would become a resource available to members of NZART only. The only list not subject to this is Headquarters InfoLine, which will remain a resource for everyone. Effectively immediately from 1 November 2007 this is now a members-only service. This members-only service is nothing new as NZART by example it provides an email alias service where members can use their callsign as an email address e.g. zl2zyy at nzart.org.nz The NZART Email Lists or Reflectors were originally set-up to provide discussion forums for various interest groups, under various titles - AREC and the New Zealand DX Reflector to name but two examples. However, over a long period of time some of these email lists have become the place to not only attack NZART, its Executive Council, Officers of the Association, members and non-members; but to openly attack the personal lives of list members and their families - a totally unacceptable behaviour in any modern society. While debate when used correctly is healthy and robust; the debates on the various lists have at times deteriorated into nothing more that school yard bullying, naming calling and in more extreme cases, persons have been defamed. These attacks have been from both members and non-members. As with all forms of debate, there comes with it a responsibility to exercise it with care. At times the intended message is misunderstood from that intended as emails can be read in a number of ways. While there has at times been this poor behaviour many of the list members have provided good input into the running of NZART, and this has been reflected into a more transparent association, examples being full reporting of MED meetings and the public listing of NZART Executive Council On Air Minutes. NZART provided this List service to all members and non-members without much more than some simple rules and guidelines. NZART is always looking to provide value or to enhance the services it provides to its membership. Many complaints from within the lists to the Moderator or Webmaster from both members and non-members have resulted in this unsatisfactory situation arising where people are not enjoying the experience. Rather than shut down the Lists and thereby penalise everyone, NZART Executive Council has made the decision to close the lists to non-members. All attempts will be made within reason to moderate the lists and no guarantee is made that unless the situation improves that they will not be closed permanently. Members of this list (members and non-members) alike will no doubt be dismayed that such action is being taken, however the decision has been made. All members of NZART who wish to be a part of this list, or any other list must re-apply, with the exception of InfoLine which will remain unchanged. ____________________________________________________________ In light of this I have started 2 new Yahoogroups zlaprs at yaoogroups.com ZL APRS users zlpacket at yahoogroups.com ZL Packet users These groups will be open but moderated 73 Phillip ZL2TZE ------=_NextPart_000_2B80_01C8753D.55090B10 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT58750.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT58750.txt" _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs ------=_NextPart_000_2B80_01C8753D.55090B10-- From davejust at bigpond.net.au Fri Aug 21 15:55:40 2009 From: davejust at bigpond.net.au (David and Justine Olsen) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:55:40 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the Simpson In-Reply-To: References: <8034F15A-CE10-4360-84B2-2F22F24D61AD@bigpond.net.au><20DEB55DDC124FE2A696078ED3949836@DavidLaptop> Message-ID: <8BF25CD4-D486-43DA-B61A-CE2849107072@bigpond.net.au> Hi all I am finally back home after months of touring. The 40m gates plotted me all of the way across the Simpson and all over Cape York as well. My trip from Cairns to Broome was not covered so well. My car is currently in Chinchilla getting some repairs done. I will fly down next week to pick it up before continuing back here to home. Thanks all of you who ran 40m igates. David VK4MDX On 30 May 2009, at 08:48, VK4UN wrote: > \Have been following you through to Mt Isa so far and running like > a dream a lot of beacons getting back to your home > > Cheers > > David VK4UN > vk4un-15 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" > > To: "Australian APRS Users" > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the > Simpson > > >> Hi David >> >> I am leaving in about 20 minutes and my 40m iGate has been >> running for some time. >> >> David >> >> >> On 29 May 2009, at 10:07, VK4UN wrote: >> >>> When are you leaving David, and are you running a 40mtr igate >>> from home >>> >>> Have a good trip >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> David VK4UN >>> VK4UN-15 on 30 meters >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" >>> >>> To: "Australian APRS Users" >>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:17 PM >>> Subject: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the >>> Simpson >>> >>> >>>> Bye all, catch you when I return. I'll be running 40m APRS >>>> David >>>> VK4MDX >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ozaprs mailing list >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Fri Aug 21 16:08:06 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:08:06 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the Simpson References: <8034F15A-CE10-4360-84B2-2F22F24D61AD@bigpond.net.au><20DEB55DDC124FE2A696078ED3949836@DavidLaptop> <8BF25CD4-D486-43DA-B61A-CE2849107072@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: what was ur setup ? ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Aiways Technical Officer Grade 4 Surveillance - RADAR ADS-B Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" To: "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the Simpson > Hi all > > I am finally back home after months of touring. The 40m gates plotted > me all of the way across the Simpson and all over Cape York as well. > My trip from Cairns to Broome was not covered so well. > My car is currently in Chinchilla getting some repairs done. I will > fly down next week to pick it up before continuing back here to home. > > Thanks all of you who ran 40m igates. > > David VK4MDX > > > > On 30 May 2009, at 08:48, VK4UN wrote: > >> \Have been following you through to Mt Isa so far and running like >> a dream a lot of beacons getting back to your home >> >> Cheers >> >> David VK4UN >> vk4un-15 >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" >> >> To: "Australian APRS Users" >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:26 AM >> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the >> Simpson >> >> >>> Hi David >>> >>> I am leaving in about 20 minutes and my 40m iGate has been >>> running for some time. >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> On 29 May 2009, at 10:07, VK4UN wrote: >>> >>>> When are you leaving David, and are you running a 40mtr igate >>>> from home >>>> >>>> Have a good trip >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> David VK4UN >>>> VK4UN-15 on 30 meters >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" >>>> >>>> To: "Australian APRS Users" >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:17 PM >>>> Subject: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the >>>> Simpson >>>> >>>> >>>>> Bye all, catch you when I return. I'll be running 40m APRS >>>>> David >>>>> VK4MDX >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ozaprs mailing list >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From davejust at bigpond.net.au Fri Aug 21 17:38:21 2009 From: davejust at bigpond.net.au (David and Justine Olsen) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:38:21 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the Simpson In-Reply-To: References: <8034F15A-CE10-4360-84B2-2F22F24D61AD@bigpond.net.au><20DEB55DDC124FE2A696078ED3949836@DavidLaptop> <8BF25CD4-D486-43DA-B61A-CE2849107072@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <3B6341B3-99AF-486F-97A1-89C4EACCEC56@bigpond.net.au> The setup was IC706, Tinytrack 3, Terlin Stealth multitap. David VK4MDX On 21 Aug 2009, at 16:08, Andrew Rich ((Home)) wrote: > what was ur setup ? > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Aiways Technical Officer Grade 4 > Surveillance - RADAR ADS-B > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" > > To: "Australian APRS Users" > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the > Simpson > > >> Hi all >> >> I am finally back home after months of touring. The 40m gates plotted >> me all of the way across the Simpson and all over Cape York as well. >> My trip from Cairns to Broome was not covered so well. >> My car is currently in Chinchilla getting some repairs done. I will >> fly down next week to pick it up before continuing back here to home. >> >> Thanks all of you who ran 40m igates. >> >> David VK4MDX >> >> >> >> On 30 May 2009, at 08:48, VK4UN wrote: >> >>> \Have been following you through to Mt Isa so far and running like >>> a dream a lot of beacons getting back to your home >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> David VK4UN >>> vk4un-15 >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" >>> >>> To: "Australian APRS Users" >>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:26 AM >>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the >>> Simpson >>> >>> >>>> Hi David >>>> >>>> I am leaving in about 20 minutes and my 40m iGate has been >>>> running for some time. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 May 2009, at 10:07, VK4UN wrote: >>>> >>>>> When are you leaving David, and are you running a 40mtr igate >>>>> from home >>>>> >>>>> Have a good trip >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> David VK4UN >>>>> VK4UN-15 on 30 meters >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" >>>>> >>>>> To: "Australian APRS Users" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:17 PM >>>>> Subject: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the >>>>> Simpson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Bye all, catch you when I return. I'll be running 40m APRS >>>>>> David >>>>>> VK4MDX >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ozaprs mailing list >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: > 08/20/09 18:06:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From ibennett at tpg.com.au Fri Aug 21 17:19:59 2009 From: ibennett at tpg.com.au (Ian Bennett) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:19:59 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the Simpson In-Reply-To: <8BF25CD4-D486-43DA-B61A-CE2849107072@bigpond.net.au> References: <8034F15A-CE10-4360-84B2-2F22F24D61AD@bigpond.net.au> <8BF25CD4-D486-43DA-B61A-CE2849107072@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <200908211719.59522.ibennett@tpg.com.au> David, I concur that your plot across the Simpson went well. I was following you on a daily basis since we had to cross Eyre creek about two weeks after you did and your plot showed us where we had to go on the bypass :-) I'm guessing your car had more than antenna troubles if you left it in Chinchilla. Ian VK1IAN On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:55:40 David and Justine Olsen wrote: > Hi all > > I am finally back home after months of touring. The 40m gates plotted > me all of the way across the Simpson and all over Cape York as well. > My trip from Cairns to Broome was not covered so well. > My car is currently in Chinchilla getting some repairs done. I will > fly down next week to pick it up before continuing back here to home. > > Thanks all of you who ran 40m igates. > > David VK4MDX > > On 30 May 2009, at 08:48, VK4UN wrote: > > \Have been following you through to Mt Isa so far and running like > > a dream a lot of beacons getting back to your home > > > > Cheers > > > > David VK4UN > > vk4un-15 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" > > > > To: "Australian APRS Users" > > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the > > Simpson > > > >> Hi David > >> > >> I am leaving in about 20 minutes and my 40m iGate has been > >> running for some time. > >> > >> David > >> > >> On 29 May 2009, at 10:07, VK4UN wrote: > >>> When are you leaving David, and are you running a 40mtr igate > >>> from home > >>> > >>> Have a good trip > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> David VK4UN > >>> VK4UN-15 on 30 meters > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Justine Olsen" > >>> > >>> To: "Australian APRS Users" > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:17 PM > >>> Subject: [OZAPRS] Off to Alice Springs Tomorrow then across the > >>> Simpson > >>> > >>>> Bye all, catch you when I return. I'll be running 40m APRS > >>>> David > >>>> VK4MDX > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Ozaprs mailing list > >>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > >>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Ozaprs mailing list > >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Ozaprs mailing list > >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ozaprs mailing list > > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2jma at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 12:56:41 2009 From: vk2jma at gmail.com (Mark austin) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:56:41 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Tamworth IGate & WX Message-ID: G?day, Just a quick not to say the Tamworth igate and WX are back up and going following a power related failure early this week. Surge protection is being added to the system today, but as the operator (Me!) can?t be replaced, the system will remain unprotected from the human factor! Regards, Mark _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2tv at exemail.com.au Sat Aug 1 15:23:22 2009 From: vk2tv at exemail.com.au (Ray Wells) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:23:22 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Tamworth IGate & WX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A73D14A.30302@exemail.com.au> Mark, I note that your temperature is consistently much higher than the automatic station at the airport (20 vs 15.9 at 1525). Is it a location specific thing with your sensor? Just curious. Ray vk2tv Mark austin wrote: > G?day, > Just a quick not to say the Tamworth igate and WX are back up and > going following a power related failure early this week. Surge > protection is being added to the system today, but as the operator > (Me!) can?t be replaced, the system will remain unprotected from the > human factor! > Regards, > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2jma at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 18:57:25 2009 From: vk2jma at gmail.com (Mark austin) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:57:25 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Tamworth IGate & WX In-Reply-To: <4A73D14A.30302@exemail.com.au> References: <4A73D14A.30302@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: Ray, The station is on top of the Tamworth Hospital with the temp sensor in an air intake grill, I suspect it suffers from the western sun and is also out of calibration. It was put in to provide the Westpac helicopter with local wind direction info. I've been going to have a look for a while, but free time at work's been a bit hard to find! Now I know someone is looking at it I'll get it look at! I'd be interested to know how you?re picking up and placing the data for Armidale etc? Regards, Mark On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Ray Wells wrote: > Mark, > > I note that your temperature is consistently much higher than the automatic > station at the airport (20 vs 15.9 at 1525). Is it a location specific thing > with your sensor? Just curious. > > Ray vk2tv _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2tv at exemail.com.au Sun Aug 2 09:05:32 2009 From: vk2tv at exemail.com.au (Ray Wells) Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 09:05:32 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Tamworth IGate & WX In-Reply-To: References: <4A73D14A.30302@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: <4A74CA3C.6050805@exemail.com.au> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The streaming audio on the Tank website is a nice touch, well done on whoever negotiated that!!! Conversations with my "Monster in law" who still lives in Kempsey might not be such a task now I can catch up on some local content! I've been using your Kempsey WX as a conversation starter for a while! Regards, Mark vk2jma(at)gmail.com On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Ray Wells wrote: > Hi Mark, > > A great project to help the community. Good one. There's a fair amount of > data on home built weather stations and their environment on the web. Have a > look at the CWOP page for links. One page even has a homebrew solar shield > for the thermometer. > > My "project" is a result of me being involved with the local community radio > station where we get weather and temperature forecasts twice a day but no > current temperature except from my homebrew studio thermometer. Being that > the studio is on a 35m hill and inside a 40' diameter water reservior (we > wear goggles and a snorkle) (http://www.tankfm.org/default.asp?iId=JMHLJ), > the morning temperature in winter is often many degrees higher than typical > valley temperature (when I was there at 5.30am Friday it was 9? vs 1.5?, a > significant difference). > > Whilst watching some cyclones last year I noticed the Darwin airport > automatic weather station on the APRS map and that got the wheels rolling to > figure out how the heck it was done. That information is uploaded by a US > station who ignored my email for information so I proceeded on my own and > learned a lot of new Linux tools for processing text. > > One day I'll do the lot with Perl scripts but because my Perl knowledge is a > bit ordinary, for now I'm using a combination of shell scripting and Perl > script in Linux. The shell script processes the text side of things and Perl > handles the mathematics. > In the shell script I: > get the html info as text from the BoM using Lynx (a text only browser) > use a combination of egrep, cat, sed and cut to search the text for the > first line of weather data and extract the values for each field of > interest. > use case to convert text based compass point wind direction to numeric > values. > > Then I call the perl script to: > convert kph to mph, Celsius to Fahrenheit, and format each reading to the > appropriate format for aprs, including rounding up/down for temperature. > the various fields are then combined into the aprs object format and > combined with some leading text to create the sentence that is sent to aprs. > > Next, I return to the shell script to send the sentence to the server port > on my xastir system for uploading to internet. > > Perl is cross-platform so it should be possible to produce a Perl script to > do all this in Windoze, if you don't run Linux. I guess UIView is capable of > sending the object sentence but since I don't use Windoze for aprs I'm just > guessing. > > The five stations I upload are the five that are of interest here at the > radio station, being that they're in the local "region". However, if you > like, as an interim arrangement, I'm happy to include Tamworth. I could even > have it appear to come from your callsign. Or, I'm even happy to mind my own > business :-) > > Tamworth raw data is here > http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60801/IDN60801.95762.shtml > > You're welcome to a copy of my scripts. > > The airport data is updated half-hourly at most airports although some > (Taree, e.g.) are updated hourly. Occasionally, if a significant change has > taken place additional updates can be observed. The updates generally take > place approximately ten minutes after the event. i.e. an 0800 update is > available at 0810. I have crontab entries to run my scripts at 13/43, 14/44, > 15/45 & 16/46 minutes past the hour for the four non-local ariports, and at > 02, 12, 22, 32, 42, 52 for the local airport, with "current' local > information being most significant for our needs. > > When I can find a 25 hour day in an 8 day week I'll also include rainfall > since 9.00am and hourly rainfall. Unfortunately, the standard elsewhere > seems to be to record rain since midnight so I'll have to manipulate some > figures to make "ours" fit "theirs". > > Ray vk2tv > > > > Mark austin wrote: > > Ray, > The station is on top of the Tamworth Hospital with the temp sensor in > an air intake grill, I suspect it suffers from the western sun and is > also out of calibration. It was put in to provide the Westpac > helicopter with local wind direction info. I've been going to have a > look for a while, but free time at work's been a bit hard to find! Now > I know someone is looking at it I'll get it look at! > > I'd be interested to know how you?re picking up and placing the data > for Armidale etc? > Regards, > Mark > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Ray Wells wrote: > > > Mark, > > I note that your temperature is consistently much higher than the automatic > station at the airport (20 vs 15.9 at 1525). Is it a location specific thing > with your sensor? Just curious. > > Ray vk2tv > > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2tv at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 4 10:56:15 2009 From: vk2tv at exemail.com.au (Ray Wells) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:56:15 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Tamworth IGate & WX In-Reply-To: References: <4A73D14A.30302@exemail.com.au> <4A74CA3C.6050805@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: <4A77872F.7090905@exemail.com.au> Mark, Tamworth up and running with updates called from crontab at 17 and 47 minutes past each hour. If you want more frequent updates just let me know. For now they appear to come from VK2WET via vk2tv-4 but when I get the vk2wet machine installed they'll be via vk2wet which is the Tank FM ARC. Tank FM's official callsign is 2WET. The streaming audio was a great deal arranged by the brother of one of our members who is the IT guy for a large finance company. He's also our webmaster and is hosting our website at a very modest cost on his own server in Brisbane. The internet service is from Internode who provided two ADSL services plus the streaming as a contra-deal for some sponsorship. They cost us nothing. The first time I have to speak to a help desk in Shri Lanka I'll be changing from Exetel to Internode! At our end we have a dedicated Dell Optiplex Small Form Factor machine running WinXP Pro with SP2. It takes a convenient unbalanced spare feed from the output of the station's limiter. I was going to run Linux and, even managed to compile the necessaries and make them work but changed my mind because I'm the only Linux savvy person in the place. The vk2wet machine is running Linux (Debian 4.08) and will provide: network time server to two non-routeable networks router between those two networks firewall for the second network fbb bbs (local 2m port and a 70cm 9k6 link to here) fpacnode (ax25, Rose & netron routing) xastir for aprs The vk2wet machine is still here at the moment due to a heart transplant. The Dell (Dimension 4600) we were going to use in the studio for music playback from the digital library had rather severe and unsolvable latency issues that caused severe chopping of the audio. The vk2wet Dell (Dimension 4500) machine was fine so I performed two heart transplants yesterday. The vk2wet machine is running again but minus the network card I had to steal. You should see vk2wet with the icon H2O on the map. I'll copy those files and send them in a P email. Ray vk2tv Mark austin wrote: > Ray, > Thanks for the links, offer and info! I lived in Kempsey for a few > years followed by Port and Wauchope so I know the "Tank" well. > > I'll take you up on the copy of the scrips, and the interim Tamworth > object if its easy to add? (conscious of the 24/7 problem :~) ). I've > got the current Tamworth WX running on UIview at work, but the real > Igate at my QTH is the Linux variety. Combining them is a work in > progress. > > The streaming audio on the Tank website is a nice touch, well done on > whoever negotiated that!!! Conversations with my "Monster in law" who > still lives in Kempsey might not be such a task now I can catch up on > some local content! I've been using your Kempsey WX as a conversation > starter for a while! > > Regards, > Mark > > vk2jma(at)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Ray Wells wrote: > >> Hi Mark, >> >> A great project to help the community. Good one. There's a fair amount of >> data on home built weather stations and their environment on the web. Have a >> look at the CWOP page for links. One page even has a homebrew solar shield >> for the thermometer. >> >> My "project" is a result of me being involved with the local community radio >> station where we get weather and temperature forecasts twice a day but no >> current temperature except from my homebrew studio thermometer. Being that >> the studio is on a 35m hill and inside a 40' diameter water reservior (we >> wear goggles and a snorkle) (http://www.tankfm.org/default.asp?iId=JMHLJ), >> the morning temperature in winter is often many degrees higher than typical >> valley temperature (when I was there at 5.30am Friday it was 9? vs 1.5?, a >> significant difference). >> >> Whilst watching some cyclones last year I noticed the Darwin airport >> automatic weather station on the APRS map and that got the wheels rolling to >> figure out how the heck it was done. That information is uploaded by a US >> station who ignored my email for information so I proceeded on my own and >> learned a lot of new Linux tools for processing text. >> >> One day I'll do the lot with Perl scripts but because my Perl knowledge is a >> bit ordinary, for now I'm using a combination of shell scripting and Perl >> script in Linux. The shell script processes the text side of things and Perl >> handles the mathematics. >> In the shell script I: >> get the html info as text from the BoM using Lynx (a text only browser) >> use a combination of egrep, cat, sed and cut to search the text for the >> first line of weather data and extract the values for each field of >> interest. >> use case to convert text based compass point wind direction to numeric >> values. >> >> Then I call the perl script to: >> convert kph to mph, Celsius to Fahrenheit, and format each reading to the >> appropriate format for aprs, including rounding up/down for temperature. >> the various fields are then combined into the aprs object format and >> combined with some leading text to create the sentence that is sent to aprs. >> >> Next, I return to the shell script to send the sentence to the server port >> on my xastir system for uploading to internet. >> >> Perl is cross-platform so it should be possible to produce a Perl script to >> do all this in Windoze, if you don't run Linux. I guess UIView is capable of >> sending the object sentence but since I don't use Windoze for aprs I'm just >> guessing. >> >> The five stations I upload are the five that are of interest here at the >> radio station, being that they're in the local "region". However, if you >> like, as an interim arrangement, I'm happy to include Tamworth. I could even >> have it appear to come from your callsign. Or, I'm even happy to mind my own >> business :-) >> >> Tamworth raw data is here >> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60801/IDN60801.95762.shtml >> >> You're welcome to a copy of my scripts. >> >> The airport data is updated half-hourly at most airports although some >> (Taree, e.g.) are updated hourly. Occasionally, if a significant change has >> taken place additional updates can be observed. The updates generally take >> place approximately ten minutes after the event. i.e. an 0800 update is >> available at 0810. I have crontab entries to run my scripts at 13/43, 14/44, >> 15/45 & 16/46 minutes past the hour for the four non-local ariports, and at >> 02, 12, 22, 32, 42, 52 for the local airport, with "current' local >> information being most significant for our needs. >> >> When I can find a 25 hour day in an 8 day week I'll also include rainfall >> since 9.00am and hourly rainfall. Unfortunately, the standard elsewhere >> seems to be to record rain since midnight so I'll have to manipulate some >> figures to make "ours" fit "theirs". >> >> Ray vk2tv >> >> >> >> Mark austin wrote: >> >> Ray, >> The station is on top of the Tamworth Hospital with the temp sensor in >> an air intake grill, I suspect it suffers from the western sun and is >> also out of calibration. It was put in to provide the Westpac >> helicopter with local wind direction info. I've been going to have a >> look for a while, but free time at work's been a bit hard to find! Now >> I know someone is looking at it I'll get it look at! >> >> I'd be interested to know how you?re picking up and placing the data >> for Armidale etc? >> Regards, >> Mark >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Ray Wells wrote: >> >> >> Mark, >> >> I note that your temperature is consistently much higher than the automatic >> station at the airport (20 vs 15.9 at 1525). Is it a location specific thing >> with your sensor? Just curious. >> >> Ray vk2tv >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From geoff at gatwards.org Sat Aug 1 17:29:46 2009 From: geoff at gatwards.org (Geoff) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:29:46 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner Message-ID: <030701ca1279$d9ffe750$8dffb5f0$@org> Folks, The planned Expedition by several Blue Mountains ARC members to Poeppels Corner is coming up fast - the group leave Sydney on 29 August for a 15 day trip out to the corner of VK4, VK5 and VK8. There will be a convoy of 4x4's and motorbikes, a few of which will be carrying APRS trackers. Whilst some of the 4x4's will have HF APRS capability, most of the trackers will be 2m VHF units - especially the bikes. For this trip, a special non-standard setup has been put together, consisting of a "Reverse HF Gate come IGate". This system is a laptop running Linux, with both digi_ned and javAPRSSrvr configured, to gate the 2m posits to the Internet when within mobile 3G Data coverage, or to HF when beyond the range of the mobile phone network. The Reverse HF Gate will only accept a special digi alias, so it will not inadvertently gate everyone to HF if the convoy travels through an existing VHF coverage area. We will be configuring the trackers with HF parameters, so the beacon intervals will be at 5-10 minutes, however to identify these "special" stations, an SSID of -13 will be used. (The standard HF mobiles will still use -15 and regular paths). The group are planning to use 40m for this trip, to allow all trackers to operate under their own callsigns. Could I please have a show of hands as to who would be able to operate their HF Gates on 40m for the period 29/8 to 12/9 to help support this trip ? More information about the trip can be found on the club's website - http://www.bmarc.org Thanks, Geoff VK2XJG _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From larrykin at internode.on.net Sat Aug 1 20:17:24 2009 From: larrykin at internode.on.net (larry) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:47:24 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner References: <030701ca1279$d9ffe750$8dffb5f0$@org> Message-ID: <23216B34285849F9990C9D268990536D@Larryeeepc> Geoff The vk5ly-4 30m&40m hf igate is running 24/7 and should provide good coverage to Poeppels corner on 40m - I had excellent reception of Dave vk4mdx recent wanderings around the Simpson. Cheers Larry vk5ly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff" To: "'Australian APRS Users'" Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner > Folks, > > > > The planned Expedition by several Blue Mountains ARC members to Poeppels > Corner is coming up fast - the group leave Sydney on 29 August for a 15 > day > trip out to the corner of VK4, VK5 and VK8. > > > > There will be a convoy of 4x4's and motorbikes, a few of which will be > carrying APRS trackers. Whilst some of the 4x4's will have HF APRS > capability, most of the trackers will be 2m VHF units - especially the > bikes. > > > > For this trip, a special non-standard setup has been put together, > consisting of a "Reverse HF Gate come IGate". > > This system is a laptop running Linux, with both digi_ned and javAPRSSrvr > configured, to gate the 2m posits to the Internet when within mobile 3G > Data > coverage, or to HF when beyond the range of the mobile phone network. The > Reverse HF Gate will only accept a special digi alias, so it will not > inadvertently gate everyone to HF if the convoy travels through an > existing > VHF coverage area. > > > > We will be configuring the trackers with HF parameters, so the beacon > intervals will be at 5-10 minutes, however to identify these "special" > stations, an SSID of -13 will be used. (The standard HF mobiles will > still > use -15 and regular paths). > > > > The group are planning to use 40m for this trip, to allow all trackers to > operate under their own callsigns. > > Could I please have a show of hands as to who would be able to operate > their > HF Gates on 40m for the period 29/8 to 12/9 to help support this trip ? > > > > More information about the trip can be found on the club's website - > http://www.bmarc.org > > > > Thanks, > > Geoff VK2XJG > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.38/2274 - Release Date: 07/31/09 05:58:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2io at amsat.org Tue Aug 4 12:54:39 2009 From: vk2io at amsat.org (Gerard Hill) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:54:39 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner In-Reply-To: <030701ca1279$d9ffe750$8dffb5f0$@org> References: <030701ca1279$d9ffe750$8dffb5f0$@org> Message-ID: <4A77A2EF.2080902@amsat.org> Hi Geoff, I have an IGate running continuously on 40m in Sydney under VK2IO-4 and would be pleased to support the expedition. With VK5LY-4 in Renmark also operating, there should be coverage from one end of the trip to the other. Cheers ... Gerard, VK2IO Geoff wrote: > Folks, > > > > The planned Expedition by several Blue Mountains ARC members to Poeppels > Corner is coming up fast - the group leave Sydney on 29 August for a 15 day > trip out to the corner of VK4, VK5 and VK8. > > > > There will be a convoy of 4x4's and motorbikes, a few of which will be > carrying APRS trackers. Whilst some of the 4x4's will have HF APRS > capability, most of the trackers will be 2m VHF units - especially the > bikes. > > > > For this trip, a special non-standard setup has been put together, > consisting of a "Reverse HF Gate come IGate". > > This system is a laptop running Linux, with both digi_ned and javAPRSSrvr > configured, to gate the 2m posits to the Internet when within mobile 3G Data > coverage, or to HF when beyond the range of the mobile phone network. The > Reverse HF Gate will only accept a special digi alias, so it will not > inadvertently gate everyone to HF if the convoy travels through an existing > VHF coverage area. > > > > We will be configuring the trackers with HF parameters, so the beacon > intervals will be at 5-10 minutes, however to identify these "special" > stations, an SSID of -13 will be used. (The standard HF mobiles will still > use -15 and regular paths). > > > > The group are planning to use 40m for this trip, to allow all trackers to > operate under their own callsigns. > > Could I please have a show of hands as to who would be able to operate their > HF Gates on 40m for the period 29/8 to 12/9 to help support this trip ? > > > > More information about the trip can be found on the club's website - > http://www.bmarc.org > > > > Thanks, > > Geoff VK2XJG _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From spitcher at energy.com.au Sat Aug 8 09:15:53 2009 From: spitcher at energy.com.au (Shaun Pitcher) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:15:53 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Nokia mobile phones with build in GPS In-Reply-To: <4A77A2EF.2080902@amsat.org> Message-ID: Ladies and Gents, I recently acquired a Nokia E71 with built in GPS. Has anyone successfully interfaced this to a APRS set up? Regards, Shaun Pitcher You can't stop the waves but you can learn to surf [ This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately via return e-mail and then delete the original e-mail. Energy Australia has collected your business contact details for dealing with you in your business capacity. More information about how we handle your personal information, including your right of access is contained at http://www.energy.com.au/ _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk3xci at aanet.com.au Sat Aug 8 09:26:27 2009 From: vk3xci at aanet.com.au (Norm, VK3XCI) Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 09:26:27 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Nokia mobile phones with build in GPS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A7CB823.2070607@aanet.com.au> Don't know about the E71 but some Phone/GPS systems "Phone home" to do the processing which can get a little expensive depending on your plan. A tow truck driver in Sydney (I think???) finished up with a $38K bill (Yep Thousand)for the first month! 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. Shaun Pitcher wrote: > Ladies and Gents, > > I recently acquired a Nokia E71 with built in GPS. Has anyone > successfully interfaced this to a APRS set up? > > Regards, > Shaun Pitcher You can't stop the waves but you can learn > to surf [ > This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. > If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately > via return e-mail and then delete the original e-mail. Energy Australia > has collected your business contact details for dealing with you in > your business capacity. More information about how we handle your > personal information, including your right of access is contained at > http://www.energy.com.au/ > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2289 - Release Date: 08/07/09 18:37:00 > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Sat Aug 8 12:01:18 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:01:18 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Nokia mobile phones with build in GPS References: <4A7CB823.2070607@aanet.com.au> Message-ID: <5F1B9AB4064141C9B1301BE1C76D6E59@home9e3111fa81> i have done nokia 6110 to aprs send is gpstracker on nokia rx is linux box on the net to aprs perl script ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm, VK3XCI" To: "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Nokia mobile phones with build in GPS > Don't know about the E71 but some Phone/GPS > systems "Phone home" to do the processing which > can get a little expensive depending on your plan. > A tow truck driver in Sydney (I think???) finished > up with a $38K bill (Yep Thousand)for the first month! > > > > > > 73 de Norm, VK3XCI > Mildura, Australia > The Wintersun City > QF15bt. > > Shaun Pitcher wrote: >> Ladies and Gents, >> >> I recently acquired a Nokia E71 with built in GPS. Has anyone >> successfully interfaced this to a APRS set up? >> >> Regards, >> Shaun Pitcher You can't stop the waves but you can learn >> to surf [ >> This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. >> If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately >> via return e-mail and then delete the original e-mail. Energy Australia >> has collected your business contact details for dealing with you in >> your business capacity. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2289 - Release Date: 08/07/09 18:37:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From rendrag at rendrag.net Sat Aug 8 18:46:04 2009 From: rendrag at rendrag.net (Damien Gardner Jnr) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:46:04 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Nokia mobile phones with build in GPS In-Reply-To: <5F1B9AB4064141C9B1301BE1C76D6E59@home9e3111fa81> References: <4A7CB823.2070607@aanet.com.au> <5F1B9AB4064141C9B1301BE1C76D6E59@home9e3111fa81> Message-ID: Hey Andrew, Got a link to gpstracker? :) Would love to use my nokia navigator for aprs :) Cheers, Damien Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder On 08/08/2009, at 12:01 PM, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: > i have done nokia 6110 to aprs > > send is gpstracker on nokia > > rx is linux box on the net to aprs > > perl script > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm, VK3XCI" > > To: "Australian APRS Users" > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Nokia mobile phones with build in GPS > > >> Don't know about the E71 but some Phone/GPS >> systems "Phone home" to do the processing which >> can get a little expensive depending on your plan. >> A tow truck driver in Sydney (I think???) finished >> up with a $38K bill (Yep Thousand)for the first month! >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 de Norm, VK3XCI >> Mildura, Australia >> The Wintersun City >> QF15bt. >> >> Shaun Pitcher wrote: >>> Ladies and Gents, >>> >>> I recently acquired a Nokia E71 with built in GPS. Has anyone >>> successfully interfaced this to a APRS set up? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Shaun Pitcher You can't stop the waves but you >>> can learn >>> to surf [ >>> This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. >>> If you have received it in error, please notify the sender >>> immediately >>> via return e-mail and then delete the original e-mail. Energy >>> Australia >>> has collected your business contact details for dealing with you in >>> your business capacity. More information about how we handle your >>> personal information, including your right of access is contained at >>> http://www.energy.com.au/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ozaprs mailing list >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2289 - Release Date: >>> 08/07/09 18:37:00 >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2289 - Release Date: > 08/07/09 18:37:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From geoff-lists at gatwards.org Thu Aug 13 11:32:45 2009 From: geoff-lists at gatwards.org (Geoff) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:32:45 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner In-Reply-To: <030701ca1279$d9ffe750$8dffb5f0$@org> References: <030701ca1279$d9ffe750$8dffb5f0$@org> Message-ID: <009701ca1bb5$f81b7520$e8525f60$@org> Folks, Thanks to everyone who has indicated their HF Gates will be available for us on 40m for this trip :) Here is an update on the setup that will be used for the APRS component. It's VERY non-standard, so I want to make sure we've 'notified' everyone about the strange things that could be seen on the network during this time. The mobile trackers on VHF (non-hf equipped 4x4's and bikes) will be running the following settings: - SSID = -13 - Beacon Interval = 5 minutes - Path = WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,xxx,GATE,WIDE2-1 The -13 indicates a non-standard usage (not purely VHF -9, not purely HF -15) Whilst in normal network coverage on 2m, the WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 part of the path will allow the existing network to be used, with everything else being ignored. (xxx will only be known to those on the trip to avoid possible abuse of the gateway) When beyond the exiting 2m coverage area, The mobile gateway that will be travelling in one of the vehicles takes over. It runs digi_ned, which is configured to detect the presence of the 'xxx' digipeater in the path, and chop off everything before it (preempting). It will then substitute 'xxx' with the gateway callsign (VK2US-13) and gate the beacon from the bike to HF with the remaining path - i.e. GATE,WIDE2-1 The original and re-generated beacons from the mobile will look like this (taken from digi_ned log) from:2 VK2XJG-7 > PPPPP0 via WIDE1-1 WIDE2-2 xxx GATE WIDE2-1 UIv PID=F0 19 bytes 'vX.l .[/>PORTABLE to:1 VK2XJG-7 > PPPPP0 via VK2US-13* GATE WIDE2-1 UIv PID=F0 19 bytes 'vX.l .[/>PORTABLE The mobile gateway will also have a 3G data connection, and can run as a mobile IGate whilst in 3G coverage, so not all posits will be sent via HF, especially if HF APRS interferes too much with the HF voice comms that will be also running from many vehicles. This setup will be tested in the next week or two 'for real' to make sure these configs do actually allow posits to gate from vhf to hf and back into the APRS-IS before the fella's head out west. Regards, Geoff VK2XJG -----Original Message----- From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On Behalf Of Geoff Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 5:30 PM To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner Folks, The planned Expedition by several Blue Mountains ARC members to Poeppels Corner is coming up fast - the group leave Sydney on 29 August for a 15 day trip out to the corner of VK4, VK5 and VK8. There will be a convoy of 4x4's and motorbikes, a few of which will be carrying APRS trackers. Whilst some of the 4x4's will have HF APRS capability, most of the trackers will be 2m VHF units - especially the bikes. For this trip, a special non-standard setup has been put together, consisting of a "Reverse HF Gate come IGate". This system is a laptop running Linux, with both digi_ned and javAPRSSrvr configured, to gate the 2m posits to the Internet when within mobile 3G Data coverage, or to HF when beyond the range of the mobile phone network. The Reverse HF Gate will only accept a special digi alias, so it will not inadvertently gate everyone to HF if the convoy travels through an existing VHF coverage area. We will be configuring the trackers with HF parameters, so the beacon intervals will be at 5-10 minutes, however to identify these "special" stations, an SSID of -13 will be used. (The standard HF mobiles will still use -15 and regular paths). The group are planning to use 40m for this trip, to allow all trackers to operate under their own callsigns. Could I please have a show of hands as to who would be able to operate their HF Gates on 40m for the period 29/8 to 12/9 to help support this trip ? More information about the trip can be found on the club's website - http://www.bmarc.org Thanks, Geoff VK2XJG _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From larrykin at internode.on.net Fri Aug 14 06:59:56 2009 From: larrykin at internode.on.net (larry) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:29:56 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner References: <030701ca1279$d9ffe750$8dffb5f0$@org> <009701ca1bb5$f81b7520$e8525f60$@org> Message-ID: Thanks for update Geoff. The vk5ly-4 40m gateway may be temporarily unavailable from time to time during the week 15/8-22/8 (particularly over the 15-16 Aug weekend) as some hardware is used as back-up comms for the Variety Club's National Bash being held during this week. All systems will be go during your planned expedition. Cheers Larry vk5ly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff" To: "'Australian APRS Users'" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:02 AM Subject: RE: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner > Folks, > > Thanks to everyone who has indicated their HF Gates will be available for > us > on 40m for this trip :) > > Here is an update on the setup that will be used for the APRS component. > It's VERY non-standard, so I want to make sure we've 'notified' everyone > about the strange things that could be seen on the network during this > time. > > The mobile trackers on VHF (non-hf equipped 4x4's and bikes) will be > running > the following settings: > - SSID = -13 > - Beacon Interval = 5 minutes > - Path = WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,xxx,GATE,WIDE2-1 > > The -13 indicates a non-standard usage (not purely VHF -9, not purely HF > -15) > Whilst in normal network coverage on 2m, the WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 part of the > path will allow the existing network to be used, with everything else > being > ignored. > (xxx will only be known to those on the trip to avoid possible abuse of > the > gateway) > > When beyond the exiting 2m coverage area, The mobile gateway that will be > travelling in one of the vehicles takes over. It runs digi_ned, which is > configured to detect the presence of the 'xxx' digipeater in the path, and > chop off everything before it (preempting). It will then substitute 'xxx' > with the gateway callsign (VK2US-13) and gate the beacon from the bike to > HF > with the remaining path - i.e. GATE,WIDE2-1 > > The original and re-generated beacons from the mobile will look like this > (taken from digi_ned log) > > from:2 VK2XJG-7 > PPPPP0 via WIDE1-1 WIDE2-2 xxx GATE WIDE2-1 UIv PID=F0 > 19 > bytes > 'vX.l .[/>PORTABLE > > to:1 VK2XJG-7 > PPPPP0 via VK2US-13* GATE WIDE2-1 UIv PID=F0 19 bytes > 'vX.l .[/>PORTABLE > > > The mobile gateway will also have a 3G data connection, and can run as a > mobile IGate whilst in 3G coverage, so not all posits will be sent via HF, > especially if HF APRS interferes too much with the HF voice comms that > will > be also running from many vehicles. > > > This setup will be tested in the next week or two 'for real' to make sure > these configs do actually allow posits to gate from vhf to hf and back > into > the APRS-IS before the fella's head out west. > > > Regards, > Geoff VK2XJG > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On > Behalf Of Geoff > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 5:30 PM > To: 'Australian APRS Users' > Subject: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner > > Folks, > > > > The planned Expedition by several Blue Mountains ARC members to Poeppels > Corner is coming up fast - the group leave Sydney on 29 August for a 15 > day > trip out to the corner of VK4, VK5 and VK8. > > > > There will be a convoy of 4x4's and motorbikes, a few of which will be > carrying APRS trackers. Whilst some of the 4x4's will have HF APRS > capability, most of the trackers will be 2m VHF units - especially the > bikes. > > > > For this trip, a special non-standard setup has been put together, > consisting of a "Reverse HF Gate come IGate". > > This system is a laptop running Linux, with both digi_ned and javAPRSSrvr > configured, to gate the 2m posits to the Internet when within mobile 3G > Data > coverage, or to HF when beyond the range of the mobile phone network. The > Reverse HF Gate will only accept a special digi alias, so it will not > inadvertently gate everyone to HF if the convoy travels through an > existing > VHF coverage area. > > > > We will be configuring the trackers with HF parameters, so the beacon > intervals will be at 5-10 minutes, however to identify these "special" > stations, an SSID of -13 will be used. (The standard HF mobiles will > still > use -15 and regular paths). > > > > The group are planning to use 40m for this trip, to allow all trackers to > operate under their own callsigns. > > Could I please have a show of hands as to who would be able to operate > their > HF Gates on 40m for the period 29/8 to 12/9 to help support this trip ? > > > > More information about the trip can be found on the club's website - > http://www.bmarc.org > > > > Thanks, > > Geoff VK2XJG > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.52/2298 - Release Date: 08/12/09 06:09:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From wavetel at internode.on.net Sun Aug 2 13:12:13 2009 From: wavetel at internode.on.net (Tony Hunt) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:42:13 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] Re: Ozaprs Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net> Message-ID: Geoff.. I can help with 40m (Adelaide) and perhaps Michael 5MW at Roxby could be dobbed in as well as he has just got HF running .. I will leave that to him as I dont know what antennas he has and availabliity. Its a good oportunity to experiment with mobiles on 40m again. From experience what you need are HF Gates at close range around 1000km and less to try and get the packets before they are too mangled. One question What sort of Paths will we be seeing from the Bikes once they have gated out to HF ?? Just give us a reminder again around that time and I will switch to 40m. Currently playing on 30m with APRSD. Tony Hunt VK5AH > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:29:46 +1000 > From: "Geoff" > Subject: [OZAPRS] BMARC Expedition to Poeppels Corner > To: "'Australian APRS Users'" > Message-ID: <030701ca1279$d9ffe750$8dffb5f0$@org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Folks, > > > > The planned Expedition by several Blue Mountains ARC members to Poeppels > Corner is coming up fast - the group leave Sydney on 29 August for a 15 > day > trip out to the corner of VK4, VK5 and VK8. > > > > There will be a convoy of 4x4's and motorbikes, a few of which will be > carrying APRS trackers. Whilst some of the 4x4's will have HF APRS > capability, most of the trackers will be 2m VHF units - especially the > bikes. > > > > For this trip, a special non-standard setup has been put together, > consisting of a "Reverse HF Gate come IGate". > > This system is a laptop running Linux, with both digi_ned and javAPRSSrvr > configured, to gate the 2m posits to the Internet when within mobile 3G > Data > coverage, or to HF when beyond the range of the mobile phone network. The > Reverse HF Gate will only accept a special digi alias, so it will not > inadvertently gate everyone to HF if the convoy travels through an > existing > VHF coverage area. > > > > We will be configuring the trackers with HF parameters, so the beacon > intervals will be at 5-10 minutes, however to identify these "special" > stations, an SSID of -13 will be used. (The standard HF mobiles will > still > use -15 and regular paths). > > > > The group are planning to use 40m for this trip, to allow all trackers to > operate under their own callsigns. > > Could I please have a show of hands as to who would be able to operate > their > HF Gates on 40m for the period 29/8 to 12/9 to help support this trip ? > > > > More information about the trip can be found on the club's website - > http://www.bmarc.org > > > > Thanks, > > Geoff VK2XJG > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From kahamer at bigpond.net.au Sat Aug 8 20:45:50 2009 From: kahamer at bigpond.net.au (Karl Ahamer) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:45:50 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee In-Reply-To: References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net> Message-ID: <63BDC3E4886A4AB2B90CF8096E11A81F@karl> Hi all, I will be flying from Mittagong via Katoomba to Mudgee tomorrow Sunday morning 11am local time. Using an FT817 and a Tinytrack 3. Will be interesting to see how good the coverage is up there. Karl VK2GKA-7 VH-KAX _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Sat Aug 8 21:10:23 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:10:23 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net> <63BDC3E4886A4AB2B90CF8096E11A81F@karl> Message-ID: <89F3A04364FC45B69368F6AA178F76E0@home9e3111fa81> Add these into google earth Multi point tracking http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/cgi-bin/google_multi.cgi?Call=VK2GKA-7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Ahamer" To: "'Australian APRS Users'" Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee > Hi all, > > I will be flying from Mittagong via Katoomba to Mudgee tomorrow Sunday > morning 11am local time. > Using an FT817 and a Tinytrack 3. > > Will be interesting to see how good the coverage is up there. > > Karl > VK2GKA-7 VH-KAX > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2290 - Release Date: 08/08/09 06:10:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Sat Aug 8 21:41:25 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:41:25 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net> <63BDC3E4886A4AB2B90CF8096E11A81F@karl> Message-ID: This might be of interest - been doing some more work on my 434 MHz 19k2 GPS tracker http://www.tech-software.net/aviation_026.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Ahamer" To: "'Australian APRS Users'" Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee > Hi all, > > I will be flying from Mittagong via Katoomba to Mudgee tomorrow Sunday > morning 11am local time. > Using an FT817 and a Tinytrack 3. > > Will be interesting to see how good the coverage is up there. > > Karl > VK2GKA-7 VH-KAX > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2290 - Release Date: 08/08/09 06:10:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From kahamer at bigpond.net.au Sun Aug 9 18:05:26 2009 From: kahamer at bigpond.net.au (Karl Ahamer) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:05:26 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee In-Reply-To: References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net><63BDC3E4886A4AB2B90CF8096E11A81F@karl> Message-ID: <1967A6F7A6AF4442A8F35AA051B2B24E@karl> Hi Andrew, The flight to Mudgee went well and the coverage was very good. Thanks for the info re. Google Earth,but I'm not expert enough to know how to implement your software..... Anyway I'm flying to Cootamandra tomorrow morning,see how that goes.... 73' Karl 2GKA-7 -----Original Message----- From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich (Home) Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 9:41 PM To: Australian APRS Users Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee This might be of interest - been doing some more work on my 434 MHz 19k2 GPS tracker http://www.tech-software.net/aviation_026.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Ahamer" To: "'Australian APRS Users'" Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee > Hi all, > > I will be flying from Mittagong via Katoomba to Mudgee tomorrow Sunday > morning 11am local time. > Using an FT817 and a Tinytrack 3. > > Will be interesting to see how good the coverage is up there. > > Karl > VK2GKA-7 VH-KAX > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2290 - Release Date: 08/08/09 06:10:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 - Release Date: 08/07/09 18:37:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Sun Aug 9 21:16:46 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:16:46 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net><63BDC3E4886A4AB2B90CF8096E11A81F@karl> <1967A6F7A6AF4442A8F35AA051B2B24E@karl> Message-ID: Here is a better link for you - did away with the labels so you can see better http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/scgi-bin/VK2GKA-7.cgi And heading as well ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Ahamer" To: "'Andrew Rich (Home)'" ; "'Australian APRS Users'" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: RE: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee > Hi Andrew, > The flight to Mudgee went well and the coverage was very good. > Thanks for the info re. Google Earth,but I'm not expert enough to know how > to implement your software..... > > Anyway I'm flying to Cootamandra tomorrow morning,see how that goes.... > > 73' > Karl 2GKA-7 > > -----Original Message----- > From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On > Behalf Of Andrew Rich (Home) > Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 9:41 PM > To: Australian APRS Users > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee > > This might be of interest - been doing some more work on my 434 MHz 19k2 > GPS > > tracker > > http://www.tech-software.net/aviation_026.jpg > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karl Ahamer" > To: "'Australian APRS Users'" > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:45 PM > Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee > > >> Hi all, >> >> I will be flying from Mittagong via Katoomba to Mudgee tomorrow Sunday >> morning 11am local time. >> Using an FT817 and a Tinytrack 3. >> >> Will be interesting to see how good the coverage is up there. >> >> Karl >> VK2GKA-7 VH-KAX >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2290 - Release Date: 08/08/09 > 06:10:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 - Release Date: 08/07/09 > 18:37:00 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.48/2291 - Release Date: 08/08/09 18:17:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From a.errington at lancaster.ac.uk Sun Aug 9 21:24:10 2009 From: a.errington at lancaster.ac.uk (Andrew Errington) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:24:10 +0900 (KST) Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee In-Reply-To: References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net><63BDC3E4886A4AB2B90CF8096E11A81F@karl> <1967A6F7A6AF4442A8F35AA051B2B24E@karl> Message-ID: <2521.119.199.147.215.1249817050.squirrel@webmail03.lancs.ac.uk> On Sun, August 9, 2009 20:16, Andrew Rich $Home$ wrote: > Here is a better link for you - did away with the labels so you can see > better > > http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/scgi-bin/VK2GKA-7.cgi That URL seems to be borked. 73, Andrew ZL3AME _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From a.errington at lancaster.ac.uk Sun Aug 9 23:18:37 2009 From: a.errington at lancaster.ac.uk (Andrew Errington) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:18:37 +0900 (KST) Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee In-Reply-To: <2521.119.199.147.215.1249817050.squirrel@webmail03.lancs.ac.uk> References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net><63BDC3E4886A4AB2B90CF8096E11A81F@karl> <1967A6F7A6AF4442A8F35AA051B2B24E@karl> <2521.119.199.147.215.1249817050.squirrel@webmail03.lancs.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1665.119.199.147.215.1249823917.squirrel@webmail03.lancs.ac.uk> On Sun, August 9, 2009 20:24, Andrew Errington wrote: > On Sun, August 9, 2009 20:16, Andrew Rich $Home$ wrote: > >> Here is a better link for you - did away with the labels so you can see >> better >> >> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/scgi-bin/VK2GKA-7.cgi >> > > That URL seems to be borked. But change scgi-bin to cgi-bin and it works http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/cgi-bin/VK2GKA-7.cgi _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 10 07:19:08 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:19:08 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net><63BDC3E4886A4AB2B90CF8096E11A81F@karl><1967A6F7A6AF4442A8F35AA051B2B24E@karl><2521.119.199.147.215.1249817050.squirrel@webmail03.lancs.ac.uk> <1665.119.199.147.215.1249823917.squirrel@webmail03.lancs.ac.uk> Message-ID: What a dumb dumb , sorry guys Typo http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/cgi-bin/VK2GKA-7.cgi ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Errington" To: "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee On Sun, August 9, 2009 20:24, Andrew Errington wrote: > On Sun, August 9, 2009 20:16, Andrew Rich $Home$ wrote: > >> Here is a better link for you - did away with the labels so you can see >> better >> >> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/scgi-bin/VK2GKA-7.cgi >> > > That URL seems to be borked. But change scgi-bin to cgi-bin and it works http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/cgi-bin/VK2GKA-7.cgi _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.48/2291 - Release Date: 08/08/09 18:17:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 10 07:17:54 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:54 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee References: <20090802020004.EB8083E30C9@mail.radiocorner.net><63BDC3E4886A4AB2B90CF8096E11A81F@karl> <1967A6F7A6AF4442A8F35AA051B2B24E@karl> <2521.119.199.147.215.1249817050.squirrel@webmail03.lancs.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8BB1889AEA7847FAB21B8E74274C52B4@home9e3111fa81> lazy findu.com just reload ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Errington" To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] RE:flight to Mudgee > On Sun, August 9, 2009 20:16, Andrew Rich $Home$ wrote: >> Here is a better link for you - did away with the labels so you can see >> better >> >> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/scgi-bin/VK2GKA-7.cgi > > That URL seems to be borked. > > 73, > > Andrew > ZL3AME > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.48/2291 - Release Date: 08/08/09 18:17:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From wavetel at internode.on.net Tue Aug 4 09:49:11 2009 From: wavetel at internode.on.net (Tony Hunt) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:11 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] VK2UWP-15 Posits Message-ID: Does anyone know how to get hold of this guy ?? He cruised thru VK5 into the Mid north yesterday.. The number of HF posits he is putting out is rather excessive at times.. He has a tiny trak 4 and perhaps has corner pegging switched on.. Have a look at this . It was typical of what was going on for hours yesterday.. Theres a excellent track of him on aprs.fi . As you can see HF is working well atr present. IT would be good if he ran compressed posits as well. These uncompressed posits are massive with such frequency. I am suprised nobody else saw this happening.. The impact on the 2m network in Adelaide was huge. http://aprs.fi/?call=VK2UWP-15&mt=m&z=7&timerange=172800 2009-08-03 06:27:09 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4UN-4:/030627z3302.57S/13734.64ER186/008/A=000029 2009-08-03 06:27:17 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4DMI-4:/030627z3302.59S/13734.64ER141/009/A=000022/TT4 VK2UWP 10147.6 EDGEWORTH 2009-08-03 06:27:27 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,TCPIP*,qAS,vk2hl:/030627z3302.59S/13734.66ER073/005/A=000019 2009-08-03 06:36:13 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK7DIK-4:>TinyTrak4 v4.07 2009-08-03 06:36:17 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4DMI-4:/030636z3302.59S/13734.68ER038/000/A=000042/TT4 VK2UWP 10147.6 EDGEWORTH 2009-08-03 06:18:12 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4DMI-4:/030618z3302.42S/13733.79ER125/009/A=000022/TT4 VK2UWP 10147.6 EDGEWORTH 2009-08-03 06:18:20 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4UN-4:/030618z3302.42S/13733.84ER096/023/A=000022 2009-08-03 06:19:48 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK7DIK-4:/030619z3302.47S/13734.61ER069/023/A=000052 2009-08-03 06:15:05 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4DMI-4:/030615z3301.29S/13734.44ER210/035/A=000095 2009-08-03 06:15:25 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4UN-4:/030615z3301.45S/13734.34ER187/030/A=000131/TT4 VK2UWP 10147.6 EDGEWORTH 2009-08-03 06:15:41 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK7DIK-4:/030615z3301.56S/13734.30ER214/027/A=000141 Tony VK5AH _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From zl2tze at yahoo.com.au Tue Aug 4 10:02:35 2009 From: zl2tze at yahoo.com.au (Phillip) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:02:35 +1200 (New Zealand Standard Time) Subject: [OZAPRS] VK2UWP-15 Posits References: Message-ID: <4A777A9B.000015.12556@SERVER> From QRZ VK2UWP Warren Payne, 25 George Booth Drive, Edgeworth 2285, , 73 Phillip -------Original Message------- From: Tony Hunt Date: 4/08/2009 11:49:36 a.m. To: OZ-APRS Mial-list Subject: [OZAPRS] VK2UWP-15 Posits Does anyone know how to get hold of this guy ?? He cruised thru VK5 into the Mid north yesterday.. The number of HF posits he is putting out is rather excessive at times.. He has a tiny trak 4 and perhaps has corner pegging switched on.. Have a look at this . It was typical of what was going on for hours yesterday.. Theres a excellent track of him on aprs.fi . As you can see HF is working well atr present. IT would be good if he ran compressed posits as well. These uncompressed posits are massive with such frequency. I am suprised nobody else saw this happening.. The impact on the 2m network in Adelaide was huge. http://aprs.fi/?call=VK2UWP-15&mt=m&z=7&timerange=172800 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The number of HF posits he is putting out is rather excessive at times.. He has a tiny trak 4 and perhaps has corner pegging switched on.. Have a look at this . It was typical of what was going on for hours yesterday.. Theres a excellent track of him on aprs.fi . As you can see HF is working well atr present. IT would be good if he ran compressed posits as well. These uncompressed posits are massive with such frequency. I am suprised nobody else saw this happening.. The impact on the 2m network in Adelaide was huge. > > http://aprs.fi/?call=VK2UWP-15&mt=m&z=7&timerange=172800 > > 2009-08-03 06:27:09 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4UN-4:/030627z3302.57S/13734.64ER186/008/A=000029 > 2009-08-03 06:27:17 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4DMI-4:/030627z3302.59S/13734.64ER141/009/A=000022/TT4 VK2UWP 10147.6 EDGEWORTH > 2009-08-03 06:27:27 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,TCPIP*,qAS,vk2hl:/030627z3302.59S/13734.66ER073/005/A=000019 > 2009-08-03 06:36:13 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK7DIK-4:>TinyTrak4 v4.07 > 2009-08-03 06:36:17 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4DMI-4:/030636z3302.59S/13734.68ER038/000/A=000042/TT4 VK2UWP 10147.6 EDGEWORTH > > 2009-08-03 06:18:12 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4DMI-4:/030618z3302.42S/13733.79ER125/009/A=000022/TT4 VK2UWP 10147.6 EDGEWORTH > 2009-08-03 06:18:20 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4UN-4:/030618z3302.42S/13733.84ER096/023/A=000022 > 2009-08-03 06:19:48 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK7DIK-4:/030619z3302.47S/13734.61ER069/023/A=000052 > > > 2009-08-03 06:15:05 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4DMI-4:/030615z3301.29S/13734.44ER210/035/A=000095 > 2009-08-03 06:15:25 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK4UN-4:/030615z3301.45S/13734.34ER187/030/A=000131/TT4 VK2UWP 10147.6 EDGEWORTH > 2009-08-03 06:15:41 UTC: VK2UWP-15>APT407,GATE,WIDE1-1,qAR,VK7DIK-4:/030615z3301.56S/13734.30ER214/027/A=000141 > > > Tony VK5AH > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From andrew.gilbett at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 15:10:45 2009 From: andrew.gilbett at gmail.com (Andrew Gilbett) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:10:45 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Re: Nokia mobile phones with build in GPS Message-ID: Hi All, There is a app available for the E71 that makes it appear as a Bluetooth GPS. This could help with your endeavours. I'm sorry But I don't remember the name of the software atm... Thanks :-) Andrew Gilbett andrew.gilbett at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Sat Aug 15 08:40:58 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:40:58 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: Message-ID: <6B59DAC6FA984DC9BB77274519076789@home9e3111fa81> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker 19k2 baud rate Range 3 km's http://tech-software.net/aviation%200622.JPG _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2lqz at wia.org.au Sat Aug 15 16:25:08 2009 From: vk2lqz at wia.org.au (James Cameron) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:25:08 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker In-Reply-To: <6B59DAC6FA984DC9BB77274519076789@home9e3111fa81> References: <6B59DAC6FA984DC9BB77274519076789@home9e3111fa81> Message-ID: <20090815062508.GB1462@us.netrek.org> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: > Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker > 19k2 baud rate > Range 3 km's Neat. I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Sat Aug 15 18:35:20 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:35:20 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: <6B59DAC6FA984DC9BB77274519076789@home9e3111fa81> <20090815062508.GB1462@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <726014D465BA4F30938925424504983B@home9e3111fa81> No No Dunno ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cameron" To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >> 19k2 baud rate >> Range 3 km's > > Neat. > > I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open > source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? > > I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules > pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: 08/14/09 18:10:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Sat Aug 15 22:04:15 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:04:15 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker Message-ID: Completed http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > No > > No > > Dunno > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Cameron" > To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS > Users" > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > > >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>> 19k2 baud rate >>> Range 3 km's >> >> Neat. >> >> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >> >> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >> >> -- >> James Cameron >> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: 08/14/09 > 18:10:00 > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From rodney at melecom.com.au Mon Aug 17 10:14:40 2009 From: rodney at melecom.com.au (Mitch) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:44:40 +0930 (CST) Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does this device blindly transmit? > Completed > > http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" > To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" > > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > > >> No >> >> No >> >> Dunno >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Andrew Rich >> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >> web: www.tech-software.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Cameron" >> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >> Users" >> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >> >> >>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>> Range 3 km's >>> >>> Neat. >>> >>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>> >>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>> >>> -- >>> James Cameron >>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >> 08/14/09 >> 18:10:00 >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. > > -- ---------------------------------- Rodney Mitchell Manager, Technical Officer -------------------------- Mitchell Electronics + Computers 73 Fiveash Drive Pasadena 5042 PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 www.melecom.com.au VK5KFB -------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From rodney at melecom.com.au Mon Aug 17 17:39:52 2009 From: rodney at melecom.com.au (Mitch) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:09:52 +0930 (CST) Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au> If it operates in the Ham band I'm not sure that a beacon transmitting irregardless of any other concurrent transmissions is wise...it could be a potential interference issue? > Completed > > http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" > To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" > > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > > >> No >> >> No >> >> Dunno >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Andrew Rich >> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >> web: www.tech-software.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Cameron" >> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >> Users" >> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >> >> >>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>> Range 3 km's >>> >>> Neat. >>> >>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>> >>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>> >>> -- >>> James Cameron >>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >> 08/14/09 >> 18:10:00 >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. > > -- ---------------------------------- Rodney Mitchell Manager, Technical Officer -------------------------- Mitchell Electronics + Computers 73 Fiveash Drive Pasadena 5042 PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 www.melecom.com.au VK5KFB -------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 17 18:02:24 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:02:24 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au> Message-ID: <371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81> The only other things on that freq is garage door openers, wireless weather stations and power monitors. I am flat out hearing any body on 70cm these days ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker If it operates in the Ham band I'm not sure that a beacon transmitting irregardless of any other concurrent transmissions is wise...it could be a potential interference issue? > Completed > > http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" > To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" > > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > > >> No >> >> No >> >> Dunno >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Andrew Rich >> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >> web: www.tech-software.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Cameron" >> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >> Users" >> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >> >> >>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>> Range 3 km's >>> >>> Neat. >>> >>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>> >>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>> >>> -- >>> James Cameron >>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >> 08/14/09 >> 18:10:00 >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. > > -- ---------------------------------- Rodney Mitchell Manager, Technical Officer -------------------------- Mitchell Electronics + Computers 73 Fiveash Drive Pasadena 5042 PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 www.melecom.com.au VK5KFB -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2306 - Release Date: 08/16/09 06:09:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From hamish at cloud.net.au Mon Aug 17 18:50:30 2009 From: hamish at cloud.net.au (Hamish Moffatt) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:50:30 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker In-Reply-To: <371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81> References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au> <371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81> Message-ID: <20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> Those modules operate under the LIPD class license anyway don't they? Unless you have bumped up the power or modified it in some way. Hamish On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:02:24PM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: > The only other things on that freq is > > garage door openers, wireless weather stations and power monitors. > > I am flat out hearing any body on 70cm these days > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" > To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS > Users" > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > > > > If it operates in the Ham band I'm not sure that a beacon transmitting > irregardless of any other concurrent transmissions is wise...it could be a > potential interference issue? > > > > > >> Completed >> >> http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Andrew Rich >> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >> web: www.tech-software.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >> To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" >> >> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >> >> >>> No >>> >>> No >>> >>> Dunno >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Andrew Rich >>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>> web: www.tech-software.net >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "James Cameron" >>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>> Users" >>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>>> Range 3 km's >>>> >>>> Neat. >>>> >>>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>>> >>>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >>>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> James Cameron >>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >>> 08/14/09 >>> 18:10:00 >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. >> >> > > > -- > ---------------------------------- > Rodney Mitchell > Manager, Technical Officer > -------------------------- > Mitchell Electronics + Computers > 73 Fiveash Drive > Pasadena 5042 > > PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 > > www.melecom.com.au > VK5KFB > -------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2306 - Release Date: > 08/16/09 06:09:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 17 19:26:27 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:26:27 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au> <371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81> <20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> Message-ID: <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 watts pX, if the emission mode of the station includes: (a) C3F; or (b) J3E; or (c) R3E. (2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection (1), using a transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with that Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause interference to an amateur repeater station. ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamish Moffatt" To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS Users" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > Those modules operate under the LIPD class license anyway don't they? > Unless you have bumped up the power or modified it in some way. > > > Hamish > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:02:24PM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >> The only other things on that freq is >> >> garage door openers, wireless weather stations and power monitors. >> >> I am flat out hearing any body on 70cm these days >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Andrew Rich >> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >> web: www.tech-software.net >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" >> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >> Users" >> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >> >> >> >> If it operates in the Ham band I'm not sure that a beacon transmitting >> irregardless of any other concurrent transmissions is wise...it could be >> a >> potential interference issue? >> >> >> >> >> >>> Completed >>> >>> http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Andrew Rich >>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>> web: www.tech-software.net >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >>> To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>> >>> >>>> No >>>> >>>> No >>>> >>>> Dunno >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Andrew Rich >>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "James Cameron" >>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>>> Users" >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>>>> Range 3 km's >>>>> >>>>> Neat. >>>>> >>>>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>>>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>>>> >>>>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >>>>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> James Cameron >>>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >>>> 08/14/09 >>>> 18:10:00 >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ozaprs mailing list >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>> >>> -- >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>> believed to be clean. >>> Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------- >> Rodney Mitchell >> Manager, Technical Officer >> -------------------------- >> Mitchell Electronics + Computers >> 73 Fiveash Drive >> Pasadena 5042 >> >> PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 >> >> www.melecom.com.au >> VK5KFB >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2306 - Release Date: >> 08/16/09 06:09:00 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > -- > Hamish Moffatt VK3SB -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: 08/16/09 21:46:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 17 19:30:13 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:30:13 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au><371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81><20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> Message-ID: Curious situation huh You can jam ur complete suburbs garage door openers by sending SSTV on 434 MHz ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" To: "Hamish Moffatt" ; "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW > Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts > > Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced > station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 watts pX, if > the > emission mode of the station includes: > (a) C3F; or > > (b) J3E; or > > (c) R3E. > > (2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur > advanced > station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection (1), using a > transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. > > > > For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference > Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device > operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with that > Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause > interference > to an amateur repeater station. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hamish Moffatt" > To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS > Users" > > Cc: > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > > >> Those modules operate under the LIPD class license anyway don't they? >> Unless you have bumped up the power or modified it in some way. >> >> >> Hamish >> >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:02:24PM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>> The only other things on that freq is >>> >>> garage door openers, wireless weather stations and power monitors. >>> >>> I am flat out hearing any body on 70cm these days >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Andrew Rich >>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>> web: www.tech-software.net >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" >>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>> Users" >>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>> >>> >>> >>> If it operates in the Ham band I'm not sure that a beacon transmitting >>> irregardless of any other concurrent transmissions is wise...it could be >>> a >>> potential interference issue? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Completed >>>> >>>> http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Andrew Rich >>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >>>> To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" >>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>> >>>> >>>>> No >>>>> >>>>> No >>>>> >>>>> Dunno >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "James Cameron" >>>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>>>> Users" >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>>>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>>>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>>>>> Range 3 km's >>>>>> >>>>>> Neat. >>>>>> >>>>>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>>>>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>>>>> >>>>>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >>>>>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> James Cameron >>>>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >>>>> 08/14/09 >>>>> 18:10:00 >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>> >>>> -- >>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>> believed to be clean. >>>> Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ---------------------------------- >>> Rodney Mitchell >>> Manager, Technical Officer >>> -------------------------- >>> Mitchell Electronics + Computers >>> 73 Fiveash Drive >>> Pasadena 5042 >>> >>> PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 >>> >>> www.melecom.com.au >>> VK5KFB >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2306 - Release Date: >>> 08/16/09 06:09:00 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ozaprs mailing list >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> >> -- >> Hamish Moffatt VK3SB > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: 08/16/09 > 21:46:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: 08/16/09 21:46:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From michaelcarey at internode.on.net Mon Aug 17 20:27:17 2009 From: michaelcarey at internode.on.net (Michael Carey) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:57:17 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker In-Reply-To: References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au><371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81><20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> Message-ID: <4A893085.7080300@internode.on.net> Plus Ford Falcon key fobs and others too! Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: > Curious situation huh > > You can jam ur complete suburbs garage door openers by sending SSTV on > 434 MHz > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" > > To: "Hamish Moffatt" ; "Australian APRS Users" > > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:26 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > > >> LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW >> Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts >> >> Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced >> station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 watts pX, >> if the >> emission mode of the station includes: >> (a) C3F; or >> >> (b) J3E; or >> >> (c) R3E. >> >> (2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur >> advanced >> station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection (1), using a >> transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. >> >> >> >> For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference >> Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device >> operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with >> that >> Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause >> interference >> to an amateur repeater station. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Andrew Rich >> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >> web: www.tech-software.net >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamish Moffatt" >> >> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >> Users" >> >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >> >> >>> Those modules operate under the LIPD class license anyway don't they? >>> Unless you have bumped up the power or modified it in some way. >>> >>> >>> Hamish >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:02:24PM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>> The only other things on that freq is >>>> >>>> garage door openers, wireless weather stations and power monitors. >>>> >>>> I am flat out hearing any body on 70cm these days >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Andrew Rich >>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" >>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>>> Users" >>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:39 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If it operates in the Ham band I'm not sure that a beacon transmitting >>>> irregardless of any other concurrent transmissions is wise...it >>>> could be >>>> a >>>> potential interference issue? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Completed >>>>> >>>>> http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >>>>> To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> No >>>>>> >>>>>> No >>>>>> >>>>>> Dunno >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "James Cameron" >>>>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian >>>>>> APRS >>>>>> Users" >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>>>>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>>>>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>>>>>> Range 3 km's >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Neat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>>>>>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >>>>>>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> James Cameron >>>>>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >>>>>> 08/14/09 >>>>>> 18:10:00 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>>> believed to be clean. >>>>> Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ---------------------------------- >>>> Rodney Mitchell >>>> Manager, Technical Officer >>>> -------------------------- >>>> Mitchell Electronics + Computers >>>> 73 Fiveash Drive >>>> Pasadena 5042 >>>> >>>> PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 >>>> >>>> www.melecom.com.au >>>> VK5KFB >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2306 - Release Date: >>>> 08/16/09 06:09:00 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>> >>> -- >>> Hamish Moffatt VK3SB >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: >> 08/16/09 >> 21:46:00 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: > 08/16/09 21:46:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 17 20:33:19 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:33:19 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au><371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81><20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> <4A893085.7080300@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <312908A994C54263A2DCC98408F2D918@home9e3111fa81> I have heard Garage door openers Key locks Wireless weather stations Power monitors ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Carey" To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > Plus Ford Falcon key fobs and others too! > > > Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >> Curious situation huh >> >> You can jam ur complete suburbs garage door openers by sending SSTV on >> 434 MHz >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Andrew Rich >> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >> web: www.tech-software.net >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >> >> To: "Hamish Moffatt" ; "Australian APRS Users" >> >> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >> >> >>> LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW >>> Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts >>> >>> Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced >>> station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 watts pX, >>> if the >>> emission mode of the station includes: >>> (a) C3F; or >>> >>> (b) J3E; or >>> >>> (c) R3E. >>> >>> (2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur >>> advanced >>> station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection (1), using a >>> transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. >>> >>> >>> >>> For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference >>> Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device >>> operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with >>> that >>> Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause >>> interference >>> to an amateur repeater station. >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Andrew Rich >>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>> web: www.tech-software.net >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamish Moffatt" >>> >>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>> Users" >>> >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>> >>> >>>> Those modules operate under the LIPD class license anyway don't they? >>>> Unless you have bumped up the power or modified it in some way. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hamish >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:02:24PM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>>> The only other things on that freq is >>>>> >>>>> garage door openers, wireless weather stations and power monitors. >>>>> >>>>> I am flat out hearing any body on 70cm these days >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" >>>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>>>> Users" >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:39 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If it operates in the Ham band I'm not sure that a beacon transmitting >>>>> irregardless of any other concurrent transmissions is wise...it >>>>> could be >>>>> a >>>>> potential interference issue? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Completed >>>>>> >>>>>> http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >>>>>> To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> No >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dunno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "James Cameron" >>>>>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian >>>>>>> APRS >>>>>>> Users" >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>>>>>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>>>>>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>>>>>>> Range 3 km's >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Neat. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>>>>>>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >>>>>>>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> James Cameron >>>>>>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >>>>>>> 08/14/09 >>>>>>> 18:10:00 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>>>> believed to be clean. >>>>>> Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ---------------------------------- >>>>> Rodney Mitchell >>>>> Manager, Technical Officer >>>>> -------------------------- >>>>> Mitchell Electronics + Computers >>>>> 73 Fiveash Drive >>>>> Pasadena 5042 >>>>> >>>>> PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 >>>>> >>>>> www.melecom.com.au >>>>> VK5KFB >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2306 - Release Date: >>>>> 08/16/09 06:09:00 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hamish Moffatt VK3SB >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: >>> 08/16/09 >>> 21:46:00 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ozaprs mailing list >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: >> 08/16/09 21:46:00 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: 08/16/09 21:46:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2tv at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 18 07:26:21 2009 From: vk2tv at exemail.com.au (Ray Wells) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:26:21 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker In-Reply-To: <312908A994C54263A2DCC98408F2D918@home9e3111fa81> References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au><371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81><20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> <4A893085.7080300@internode.on.net> <312908A994C54263A2DCC98408F2D918@home9e3111fa81> Message-ID: <4A89CAFD.8070801@exemail.com.au> Don't forget those LIPD "band" walkie/talkies Ray vk2tv Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: > I have heard > > Garage door openers > Key locks > Wireless weather stations > Power monitors > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Carey" > > To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS > Users" > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > > >> Plus Ford Falcon key fobs and others too! >> >> >> Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>> Curious situation huh >>> >>> You can jam ur complete suburbs garage door openers by sending SSTV on >>> 434 MHz >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Andrew Rich >>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>> web: www.tech-software.net >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >>> >>> To: "Hamish Moffatt" ; "Australian APRS Users" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:26 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>> >>> >>>> LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW >>>> Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts >>>> >>>> Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur >>>> advanced >>>> station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 watts pX, >>>> if the >>>> emission mode of the station includes: >>>> (a) C3F; or >>>> >>>> (b) J3E; or >>>> >>>> (c) R3E. >>>> >>>> (2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur >>>> advanced >>>> station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection (1), >>>> using a >>>> transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference >>>> Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device >>>> operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with >>>> that >>>> Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause >>>> interference >>>> to an amateur repeater station. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Andrew Rich >>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamish Moffatt" >>>> >>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>>> Users" >>>> >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>> >>>> >>>>> Those modules operate under the LIPD class license anyway don't they? >>>>> Unless you have bumped up the power or modified it in some way. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hamish >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:02:24PM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>>>> The only other things on that freq is >>>>>> >>>>>> garage door openers, wireless weather stations and power monitors. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am flat out hearing any body on 70cm these days >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" >>>>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian >>>>>> APRS >>>>>> Users" >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:39 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If it operates in the Ham band I'm not sure that a beacon >>>>>> transmitting >>>>>> irregardless of any other concurrent transmissions is wise...it >>>>>> could be >>>>>> a >>>>>> potential interference issue? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Completed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >>>>>>> To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dunno >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "James Cameron" >>>>>>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian >>>>>>>> APRS >>>>>>>> Users" >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>>>>>>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>>>>>>>> Range 3 km's >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Neat. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>>>>>>>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these >>>>>>>>> modules >>>>>>>>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> James Cameron >>>>>>>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >>>>>>>> 08/14/09 >>>>>>>> 18:10:00 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>>>>> believed to be clean. >>>>>>> Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ---------------------------------- >>>>>> Rodney Mitchell >>>>>> Manager, Technical Officer >>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>> Mitchell Electronics + Computers >>>>>> 73 Fiveash Drive >>>>>> Pasadena 5042 >>>>>> >>>>>> PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 >>>>>> >>>>>> www.melecom.com.au >>>>>> VK5KFB >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2306 - Release Date: >>>>>> 08/16/09 06:09:00 >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Hamish Moffatt VK3SB >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: >>>> 08/16/09 >>>> 21:46:00 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: >>> 08/16/09 21:46:00 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ozaprs mailing list >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: > 08/16/09 21:46:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 17 20:57:18 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:57:18 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au><371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81><20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> <4A893085.7080300@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <219575E7C3444F67A43E0A4B1B73CCF6@home9e3111fa81> I have another 434.920 MHz tx from jaycar - 5 volts $12 10mW I am trying co channel interfernce on my tracker Tracker is winning at 64 kHz ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Carey" To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS Users" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker > Plus Ford Falcon key fobs and others too! > > > Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >> Curious situation huh >> >> You can jam ur complete suburbs garage door openers by sending SSTV on >> 434 MHz >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Andrew Rich >> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >> web: www.tech-software.net >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >> >> To: "Hamish Moffatt" ; "Australian APRS Users" >> >> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >> >> >>> LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW >>> Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts >>> >>> Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced >>> station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 watts pX, >>> if the >>> emission mode of the station includes: >>> (a) C3F; or >>> >>> (b) J3E; or >>> >>> (c) R3E. >>> >>> (2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur >>> advanced >>> station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection (1), using a >>> transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. >>> >>> >>> >>> For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference >>> Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device >>> operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with >>> that >>> Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause >>> interference >>> to an amateur repeater station. >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Andrew Rich >>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>> web: www.tech-software.net >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamish Moffatt" >>> >>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>> Users" >>> >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>> >>> >>>> Those modules operate under the LIPD class license anyway don't they? >>>> Unless you have bumped up the power or modified it in some way. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hamish >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:02:24PM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>>> The only other things on that freq is >>>>> >>>>> garage door openers, wireless weather stations and power monitors. >>>>> >>>>> I am flat out hearing any body on 70cm these days >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" >>>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian APRS >>>>> Users" >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:39 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If it operates in the Ham band I'm not sure that a beacon transmitting >>>>> irregardless of any other concurrent transmissions is wise...it >>>>> could be >>>>> a >>>>> potential interference issue? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Completed >>>>>> >>>>>> http://tech-software.net/tracker%200501.JPG >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Andrew Rich (Home)" >>>>>> To: "James Cameron" ; "Australian APRS Users" >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:35 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> No >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dunno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Andrew Rich >>>>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >>>>>>> email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >>>>>>> web: www.tech-software.net >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "James Cameron" >>>>>>> To: "Andrew Rich (Home)" ; "Australian >>>>>>> APRS >>>>>>> Users" >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:25 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:40:58AM +1000, Andrew Rich (Home) wrote: >>>>>>>>> Work continues on my 434 MHz GPS tracker >>>>>>>>> 19k2 baud rate >>>>>>>>> Range 3 km's >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Neat. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I note the PIC 16F628. Is the code available under an open >>>>>>>> source license, or is there any collaboration opportunity? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I note the transmitter module. Where can one obtain these modules >>>>>>>> pretuned for 70cm amateur frequencies? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> James Cameron >>>>>>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: >>>>>>> 08/14/09 >>>>>>> 18:10:00 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>>>> believed to be clean. >>>>>> Supported by melecom with a Fedora server. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ---------------------------------- >>>>> Rodney Mitchell >>>>> Manager, Technical Officer >>>>> -------------------------- >>>>> Mitchell Electronics + Computers >>>>> 73 Fiveash Drive >>>>> Pasadena 5042 >>>>> >>>>> PH/FAX: 08 8276 2939 >>>>> >>>>> www.melecom.com.au >>>>> VK5KFB >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2306 - Release Date: >>>>> 08/16/09 06:09:00 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ozaprs mailing list >>>>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>>>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hamish Moffatt VK3SB >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: >>> 08/16/09 >>> 21:46:00 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ozaprs mailing list >>> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >>> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: >> 08/16/09 21:46:00 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ozaprs mailing list >> Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >> http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: 08/16/09 21:46:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From radio at irock.com.au Mon Aug 17 22:14:57 2009 From: radio at irock.com.au (Jack Chomley) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:14:57 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker In-Reply-To: <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au> <371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81> <20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20090817221036.0348a310@irock.com.au> Mmmmm July 2009 LIPD document has para 4 (1) (b) worded differently 4 Class Licence (1) This Class Licence authorises a person to operate a transmitter included in a class of transmitters mentioned in an item in Schedule 1, subject to the following conditions: (a) the transmitter must be operated: (i) on a frequency, or within a range of frequencies, mentioned in the item; and (ii) at a radiated power that does not exceed the maximum EIRP mentioned in the item; and (iii) within the limitations (if any) mentioned in the item; (b) the transmitter's operation must not cause interference to the operation of radiocommunications services. 73 Jack VK4JRC At 07:26 PM 8/17/2009, you wrote: >LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW >Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts > >Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur >advanced station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 >watts pX, if the emission mode of the station includes: >(a) C3F; or > >(b) J3E; or > >(c) R3E. > >(2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur >advanced station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection >(1), using a transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. > > > >For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference >Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device >operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with >that Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause >interference to an amateur repeater station. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------- >Andrew Rich >Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC >email: vk4tec at tech-software.net >web: www.tech-software.net _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 17 22:19:53 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:19:53 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au> <371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81> <20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> <7.0.0.16.2.20090817221036.0348a310@irock.com.au> Message-ID: I got that off the commlaw web site ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Chomley To: Andrew Rich (Home) ; Australian APRS Users Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker Mmmmm July 2009 LIPD document has para 4 (1) (b) worded differently 4 Class Licence (1) This Class Licence authorises a person to operate a transmitter included in a class of transmitters mentioned in an item in Schedule 1, subject to the following conditions: (a) the transmitter must be operated: (i) on a frequency, or within a range of frequencies, mentioned in the item; and (ii) at a radiated power that does not exceed the maximum EIRP mentioned in the item; and (iii) within the limitations (if any) mentioned in the item; (b) the transmitter's operation must not cause interference to the operation of radiocommunications services. 73 Jack VK4JRC At 07:26 PM 8/17/2009, you wrote: LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 watts pX, if the emission mode of the station includes: (a) C3F; or (b) J3E; or (c) R3E. (2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection (1), using a transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with that Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause interference to an amateur repeater station. ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: 08/16/09 21:46:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 17 22:22:01 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:22:01 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au> <371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81> <20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> <7.0.0.16.2.20090817221036.0348a310@irock.com.au> Message-ID: Ie you cant let your LIPD get into ham repeater inputs As some people have found ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Chomley To: Andrew Rich (Home) ; Australian APRS Users Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker Mmmmm July 2009 LIPD document has para 4 (1) (b) worded differently 4 Class Licence (1) This Class Licence authorises a person to operate a transmitter included in a class of transmitters mentioned in an item in Schedule 1, subject to the following conditions: (a) the transmitter must be operated: (i) on a frequency, or within a range of frequencies, mentioned in the item; and (ii) at a radiated power that does not exceed the maximum EIRP mentioned in the item; and (iii) within the limitations (if any) mentioned in the item; (b) the transmitter's operation must not cause interference to the operation of radiocommunications services. 73 Jack VK4JRC At 07:26 PM 8/17/2009, you wrote: LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 watts pX, if the emission mode of the station includes: (a) C3F; or (b) J3E; or (c) R3E. (2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection (1), using a transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with that Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause interference to an amateur repeater station. ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: 08/16/09 21:46:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Mon Aug 17 22:23:50 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:23:50 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker References: <0853c445f331a67548c8f54972e39561.squirrel@www.melecom.com.au> <371F73E1A6CF41619DD3090CDBB10F23@home9e3111fa81> <20090817085030.GA23538@cloud.net.au> <876391022B8D4DB6AA37E97A6E2B16C4@home9e3111fa81> <7.0.0.16.2.20090817221036.0348a310@irock.com.au> Message-ID: <26FC77C9AD5E44A49CEADBF2518F9FE4@home9e3111fa81> Thats weird, maybe they had probs with LIPD interfering with more than just ham radio huh ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Chomley To: Andrew Rich (Home) ; Australian APRS Users Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] 434 MHz GPS Tracker Mmmmm July 2009 LIPD document has para 4 (1) (b) worded differently 4 Class Licence (1) This Class Licence authorises a person to operate a transmitter included in a class of transmitters mentioned in an item in Schedule 1, subject to the following conditions: (a) the transmitter must be operated: (i) on a frequency, or within a range of frequencies, mentioned in the item; and (ii) at a radiated power that does not exceed the maximum EIRP mentioned in the item; and (iii) within the limitations (if any) mentioned in the item; (b) the transmitter's operation must not cause interference to the operation of radiocommunications services. 73 Jack VK4JRC At 07:26 PM 8/17/2009, you wrote: LIPD 433.05-434.79 25mW Ham Radio 420-450 MHz Any emission mode 120 watts Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced station, using a transmitter output power of more than 400 watts pX, if the emission mode of the station includes: (a) C3F; or (b) J3E; or (c) R3E. (2) Subject to section 15, the licensee must not operate an amateur advanced station, with an emission mode not mentioned in subsection (1), using a transmitter output power of more than 120 watts pY. For paragraph 4 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications (Low Interference Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000, a radiocommunications device operating in the frequency band 433.05-434.79 MHz in accordance with that Class Licence (except for that paragraph) is taken not to cause interference to an amateur repeater station. ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2308 - Release Date: 08/16/09 21:46:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk5ard at internode.on.net Thu Aug 13 22:00:02 2009 From: vk5ard at internode.on.net (VK5ARD) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:30:02 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] Any Reports Please Message-ID: Hey fellow enthusiasts. Just wondering if I can get some feedback on my outbound data. Things seem to be going ok from here. I need to make some improvements on the antenna but that wont happen until after I move. I plan to give a vertical a try but may go to a dipole should the vertical fail to perform. Anyway I'm new to APRS so feedback is good. Regards VK5MW _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From radio at irock.com.au Thu Aug 13 23:06:37 2009 From: radio at irock.com.au (Jack Chomley) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:06:37 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Any Reports Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20090813230559.03428ec0@irock.com.au> At 10:00 PM 8/13/2009, you wrote: >Hey fellow enthusiasts. Just wondering if I can get some feedback on >my outbound data. Things seem to be going ok from here. I need to >make some improvements on the antenna but that wont happen until >after I move. I plan to give a vertical a try but may go to a dipole >should the vertical fail to perform. Anyway I'm new to APRS so >feedback is good. > >Regards >VK5MW What band/freq are you running? 73 Jack VK4JRC _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From zl2tch at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 04:14:09 2009 From: zl2tch at gmail.com (Chris Herd) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:14:09 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Any Reports Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A8457F1.4040106@gmail.com> VK5ARD wrote: > Hey fellow enthusiasts. Just wondering if I can get some feedback on my outbound data. Things seem to be going ok from here. I need to make some improvements on the antenna but that wont happen until after I move. I plan to give a vertical a try but may go to a dipole should the vertical fail to perform. Anyway I'm new to APRS so feedback is good. > > Regards > VK5MW > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > Hi Does this help? http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK5MW Best regards Chris VK3TCH/ZL2TCH _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From ibennett at tpg.com.au Fri Aug 14 06:42:06 2009 From: ibennett at tpg.com.au (Ian Bennett) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:42:06 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Any Reports Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908140642.06405.ibennett@tpg.com.au> Michael, Can't comment on your transmissions but you are certainly receiving fine. I'm getting posits through you from Canberra. Last one was at 130706Z Aug 09. Ian VK1IAN On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:00:02 VK5ARD wrote: > Hey fellow enthusiasts. Just wondering if I can get some feedback on my > outbound data. Things seem to be going ok from here. I need to make some > improvements on the antenna but that wont happen until after I move. I plan > to give a vertical a try but may go to a dipole should the vertical fail to > perform. Anyway I'm new to APRS so feedback is good. > > Regards > VK5MW > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From ibennett at tpg.com.au Fri Aug 14 06:47:41 2009 From: ibennett at tpg.com.au (Ian Bennett) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:47:41 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Any Reports Please Message-ID: <200908140647.41196.ibennett@tpg.com.au> I'd also add that you can see who you are getting in through here: http://www.db0anf.de/app/aprs/stations/digiusage-VK5MW You can also see who is getting in through you here: http://www.db0anf.de/app/aprs/stations/digiusers-VK5MW Although I'm only new to this myself, the numbers look pretty good to me ;-) Ian Michael, Can't comment on your transmissions but you are certainly receiving fine. I'm getting posits through you from Canberra. Last one was at 130706Z Aug 09. Ian VK1IAN On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:00:02 VK5ARD wrote: > Hey fellow enthusiasts. Just wondering if I can get some feedback on my > outbound data. Things seem to be going ok from here. I need to make some > improvements on the antenna but that wont happen until after I move. I plan > to give a vertical a try but may go to a dipole should the vertical fail to > perform. Anyway I'm new to APRS so feedback is good. > > Regards > VK5MW > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk5ard at internode.on.net Fri Aug 14 20:56:11 2009 From: vk5ard at internode.on.net (VK5ARD) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:26:11 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] Re: Any Reports Please In-Reply-To: <20090814020004.41C618E804E@mail.radiocorner.net> References: <20090814020004.41C618E804E@mail.radiocorner.net> Message-ID: <510C920281C74AD588F5F583B25E39BB@Chad> Thanks for the response. Yes I suppose I did leave out some handy info for you all so here's a quick rundown. OS XUBUNTU plus Xastir on a quad core 2.8G VHF is ALINCO DR 635 T (have dedicated syntrx ready but need more audio from TNC (time to add the cap)) HF 10.147.60 IC756P3 @ about 30 watts and 40 meter loop. (very temporary might I add) So far I'm cutting my teeth with the help of Tony VK5AH as I know very little about linux at all. APRS too for that matter. Also about to move house in the comming weeks so I dont want to waste my time errecting masts etc. After the move I will change the HF station to a 726 direct to a monoband vertical so I wont need a tuner. Will be seperating the 2 bands with their own SSID (VK5MW-1 & VK5MW-4) by running Xastir (VHF) and APRSD (HF). The vertical will be a bit of an experiment as realestate is at a premium. Should it not perform I will fall back to a dipole (probably inverted V) as they seem to be the favorite. IAN, thanks for your link. That was just the info I was after. I was using aprs.fi and forgot all about DB0ANF. I knew I was receiving OK but didnt know how the outbound data was going. Now I do. On a final note. I somtimes have been switching to 7.036 during the evenings as the band is more favorable during the evening. Sorry if that confused anyone. 73 DE VK5MW Michael _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From grogers at vk6hgr.echidna.id.au Sat Aug 15 19:34:03 2009 From: grogers at vk6hgr.echidna.id.au (Gavin Rogers) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:34:03 +0800 Subject: [OZAPRS] Philips FM828 crystals Message-ID: <4A86810B.6000705@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> Hi Folks. Anyone know a good supplier for FM828 crystals? I have a few A banders here that I want to press into APRS service :) I've used Hy-Q in the past and they have good service, but I'm wondering if I can do better than $40 for each rock. Cheers, Gavin. -- Gavin Rogers | Amateur radio station VK6HGR http://www.livingwaters.com/good | http://vk6hgr.ampr.org/ MSN/Skype/Email: grogers at vk6hgr.echidna.id.au _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2tv at exemail.com.au Sat Aug 15 20:02:43 2009 From: vk2tv at exemail.com.au (Ray Wells) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:02:43 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Philips FM828 crystals In-Reply-To: <4A86810B.6000705@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> References: <4A86810B.6000705@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> Message-ID: <4A8687C3.3060106@exemail.com.au> Gavin Rogers wrote: > Hi Folks. > > Anyone know a good supplier for FM828 crystals? I have a few A banders > here that I want to press into APRS service :) > > I've used Hy-Q in the past and they have good service, but I'm > wondering if I can do better than $40 for each rock. > > > Cheers, > Gavin. > > Of course you can do better than $40 each. It just depends on how much rubber you want in the crystal. I've used Hy-Q for 35 years and I've occasionally regretted trying elsewhere. You get what you pay for, speaking professionally. Ray vk2tv _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From peter at mudiefamily.org Sat Aug 15 21:40:31 2009 From: peter at mudiefamily.org (Peter Mudie) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:40:31 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Philips FM828 crystals In-Reply-To: <4A8687C3.3060106@exemail.com.au> References: <4A86810B.6000705@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> <4A8687C3.3060106@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: <3DEE529A4D19@mudiefamily.org> At 08:02 PM 15/08/2009, Ray Wells wrote: >Gavin Rogers wrote: >>Hi Folks. >> >>Anyone know a good supplier for FM828 crystals? I have a few A >>banders here that I want to press into APRS service :) >> >>I've used Hy-Q in the past and they have good service, but I'm >>wondering if I can do better than $40 for each rock. >> >> >>Cheers, >>Gavin. >> >Of course you can do better than $40 each. It just depends on how >much rubber you want in the crystal. > >I've used Hy-Q for 35 years and I've occasionally regretted trying >elsewhere. You get what you pay for, speaking professionally. Hi Ray, and all, I use HY-Q for ham and professional work. They bend over backwards for us on both sides. Gen, and Darren down there in VIC have been superb over the years. They are worth the cost, I have had a 1 crystals go wrong on commercial job ( they stuffed up the calc) and ended up 100kHz off frequency on the RF channel. It was a single special cut on an order of 2 special cuts and they replaced it as quick as they could, given that there is a certain about of aging they do on the production line. The replacements where at their cost. What better can you ask for? There was no argument, i pointed out the error, they were like bugger we will fix it!! That saga happened around Christmas time too with the usual close downs etc, and they ran the line and kept staff back over the holiday period to make this 1 crystal happen! That is service!! I have probably ordered over 5000 crystals off them between ham stuff and work stuff. I have like Ray tried others, and always ended up back at HY-Q! $40 seems a bit steep or is that including shipping? Last time i did FMxxx, they were for an FM880 for highband, and they cost me about $30 each / crystal + shipping via express post satchel. When I have ordered they have always liked a MOQ of 2 special cuts, of different frequencies which is what you need for a typical radio any how. Peter VK2XZP >Ray vk2tv >_______________________________________________ >Ozaprs mailing list >Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From grogers at vk6hgr.echidna.id.au Sat Aug 15 21:59:18 2009 From: grogers at vk6hgr.echidna.id.au (Gavin Rogers) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:59:18 +0800 Subject: [OZAPRS] Philips FM828 crystals In-Reply-To: <3DEE529A4D19@mudiefamily.org> References: <4A86810B.6000705@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> <4A8687C3.3060106@exemail.com.au> <3DEE529A4D19@mudiefamily.org> Message-ID: <4A86A316.60104@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> Peter Mudie wrote: > I have like Ray tried others, and always ended up back at HY-Q! > > $40 seems a bit steep or is that including shipping? Thanks Ray and Peter. It would seem there's little argument (and Ray has been using Hy-Q since before I was born :-) ) - Hy-Q are worth it. The price I got for each crystal was $39.49 inc GST with $11 postage. That is "random guy who's querying us off the Internet" pricing I suppose. 73 Gavin. -- Gavin Rogers | Amateur radio station VK6HGR http://www.livingwaters.com/good | http://vk6hgr.ampr.org/ MSN/Skype/Email: grogers at vk6hgr.echidna.id.au _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From peter at mudiefamily.org Sat Aug 15 22:17:58 2009 From: peter at mudiefamily.org (Peter Mudie) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:17:58 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Philips FM828 crystals In-Reply-To: <4A86A316.60104@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> References: <4A86810B.6000705@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> <4A8687C3.3060106@exemail.com.au> <3DEE529A4D19@mudiefamily.org> <4A86A316.60104@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> Message-ID: <3E108F5F63C5@mudiefamily.org> At 09:59 PM 15/08/2009, Gavin Rogers wrote: >Peter Mudie wrote: > >>I have like Ray tried others, and always ended up back at HY-Q! >>$40 seems a bit steep or is that including shipping? > > >Thanks Ray and Peter. It would seem there's little argument (and Ray >has been using Hy-Q since before I was born :-) ) - Hy-Q are worth it. > >The price I got for each crystal was $39.49 inc GST with $11 >postage. That is "random guy who's querying us off the Internet" >pricing I suppose. Hi Gavin, Ok methinks I'm getting slightly better pricing, probably due to my past history and work ordering, and that also I'm on the heels of my father who's been ordering from them for probably as long as Ray if not a little more. Thanks Peter. >73 >Gavin. > >-- > > Gavin Rogers | Amateur radio station VK6HGR > http://www.livingwaters.com/good | http://vk6hgr.ampr.org/ > MSN/Skype/Email: grogers at vk6hgr.echidna.id.au >_______________________________________________ >Ozaprs mailing list >Ozaprs at aprs.net.au >http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk2tv at exemail.com.au Sun Aug 16 08:48:49 2009 From: vk2tv at exemail.com.au (Ray Wells) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:48:49 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Philips FM828 crystals In-Reply-To: <3E108F5F63C5@mudiefamily.org> References: <4A86810B.6000705@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> <4A8687C3.3060106@exemail.com.au> <3DEE529A4D19@mudiefamily.org> <4A86A316.60104@vk6hgr.echidna.id.au> <3E108F5F63C5@mudiefamily.org> Message-ID: <4A873B51.90007@exemail.com.au> Peter Mudie wrote: > At 09:59 PM 15/08/2009, Gavin Rogers wrote: >> Peter Mudie wrote: >> >>> I have like Ray tried others, and always ended up back at HY-Q! >>> $40 seems a bit steep or is that including shipping? >> >> >> Thanks Ray and Peter. It would seem there's little argument (and Ray >> has been using Hy-Q since before I was born :-) ) - Hy-Q are worth it. >> >> The price I got for each crystal was $39.49 inc GST with $11 postage. >> That is "random guy who's querying us off the Internet" pricing I >> suppose. > > Hi Gavin, > > Ok methinks I'm getting slightly better pricing, probably due to my > past history and work ordering, and that also I'm on the heels of my > father who's been ordering from them for probably as long as Ray if > not a little more. > > Thanks > Peter. > > I guess I'm sharing Peter's boat, having dealt with them through my previous employer for many years, and having my own business account since 1993. My introduction to Hy-Q was about 1972/73 when Peter's dad, Ross vk2zrq, arranged a bulk buy for radio club members for their AWA valve carphones, when the club installed its first (all valve) voice repeater, vk2rag, which Ross built, including an all TTL logic controller that occupied numerous cards, all of which was Vero Board. The TTL morse generator was a work of art, with its diode matrix for callsign selection. No PICs back then. To comment on one of Peter's remarks, I've had no trouble purchasing single crystals for Codan HF transceivers. The last rock cost about $31 including express post. Perhaps there's been a price increase. That $31 figure had been consistent for many years. Ray vk2tv _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Sun Aug 16 07:02:57 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:02:57 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Fw: [aprssig] New APRS product Message-ID: <4F3B215B22324A1185B984052A036D2D@home9e3111fa81> ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith VE7GDH" To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [aprssig] New APRS product > For anyone that couldn't view the text in the original message... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Moulding" > To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:22 AM > Subject: [aprssig] New APRS product > > After 10 months development work we have finally launched a new APRS > product, the APRS TNC/Digi/Tracker. > > As the name suggests it's a mobile tracker that can be used as a > digipeater and as a TNC with UI-View for messaging. > > It also has a Digi All function for special events and emergency use. > > More details on the web page: > > http://www.crosscountrywireless.net/aprs_tnc.htm > > As the design was based on the WB8WGA design we can also supply > pre-programmed micro-controllers to enable amateurs who have taken the > trouble to make their own TNC to use the additional features and > reliability of the updated firmware. > > 73's, > > Chris, G4HYG > > -- > Chris Moulding > Cross Country Wireless (2009) Ltd > 7 Thirlmere Grove, Bolton, Lancs, BL4 0QB, UK > Tel/fax: +44(0)1204 410626 > Mobile: +44(0)7752 391908 > Website: http://www.crosscountrywireless.net > Company number 6780346 registered in England and Wales > > > _______________________________________________ > aprssig mailing list > aprssig at tapr.org > https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.57/2303 - Release Date: 08/14/09 18:10:00 _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From geoff at gatwards.org Sun Aug 16 14:26:30 2009 From: geoff at gatwards.org (Geoff Gatward) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:26:30 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Mailing List relocation Message-ID: <020d01ca1e29$bc900d10$35b02730$@org> Folks, We are going to be relocating this mailing list back to YahooGroups soon, due to several ongoing stability and availability issues with the Radiocorner server. We have been finding it harder to find the time to maintain the service and ensure the reliability of the lists, so we feel that it would be best to relocate the group back to YahooGroups, and make use of their server farms for reliability of both service and backups, as well as the web based search capabilities that they offer that we do not. We'll probably make the changeover around the end of the month, and will be migrating all users from this list to the new one and advising when it is done. Regards, Geoff VK2XJG _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From geoff at gatwards.org Sun Aug 16 16:46:51 2009 From: geoff at gatwards.org (Geoff Gatward) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:46:51 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation Message-ID: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> Just a clarification on this message: The list will be moving from the current radiocorner servers, NOT TO YAHOO. The 'mailman' format will be maintained, just on another host, and not under my management. Radiocorner hosts several mailing lists and this was a generic message to all groups. If better options than YahooGroups exist, they will be used. Regards, Geoff From: Geoff Gatward [mailto:geoff at gatwards.org] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:27 PM To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: Mailing List relocation Folks, We are going to be relocating this mailing list back to YahooGroups soon, due to several ongoing stability and availability issues with the Radiocorner server. We have been finding it harder to find the time to maintain the service and ensure the reliability of the lists, so we feel that it would be best to relocate the group back to YahooGroups, and make use of their server farms for reliability of both service and backups, as well as the web based search capabilities that they offer that we do not. We'll probably make the changeover around the end of the month, and will be migrating all users from this list to the new one and advising when it is done. Regards, Geoff VK2XJG _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tnp at dodo.com.au Sun Aug 16 19:02:07 2009 From: vk4tnp at dodo.com.au (vk4tnp at dodo.com.au) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:02:07 +0000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation In-Reply-To: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> References: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> Message-ID: <1836025058-1250413331-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-195864133-@bda042.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> U Sent via BlackBerry? from Telstra -----Original Message----- From: "Geoff Gatward" Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:46:51 To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation Just a clarification on this message: The list will be moving from the current radiocorner servers, NOT TO YAHOO. The 'mailman' format will be maintained, just on another host, and not under my management. Radiocorner hosts several mailing lists and this was a generic message to all groups. If better options than YahooGroups exist, they will be used. Regards, Geoff From: Geoff Gatward [mailto:geoff at gatwards.org] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:27 PM To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: Mailing List relocation Folks, We are going to be relocating this mailing list back to YahooGroups soon, due to several ongoing stability and availability issues with the Radiocorner server. We have been finding it harder to find the time to maintain the service and ensure the reliability of the lists, so we feel that it would be best to relocate the group back to YahooGroups, and make use of their server farms for reliability of both service and backups, as well as the web based search capabilities that they offer that we do not. We'll probably make the changeover around the end of the month, and will be migrating all users from this list to the new one and advising when it is done. Regards, Geoff VK2XJG _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tnp at dodo.com.au Sun Aug 16 19:02:45 2009 From: vk4tnp at dodo.com.au (vk4tnp at dodo.com.au) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:02:45 +0000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation In-Reply-To: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> References: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> Message-ID: <2121323010-1250413367-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-787996947-@bda042.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> U Sent via BlackBerry? from Telstra -----Original Message----- From: "Geoff Gatward" Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:46:51 To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation Just a clarification on this message: The list will be moving from the current radiocorner servers, NOT TO YAHOO. The 'mailman' format will be maintained, just on another host, and not under my management. Radiocorner hosts several mailing lists and this was a generic message to all groups. If better options than YahooGroups exist, they will be used. Regards, Geoff From: Geoff Gatward [mailto:geoff at gatwards.org] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:27 PM To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: Mailing List relocation Folks, We are going to be relocating this mailing list back to YahooGroups soon, due to several ongoing stability and availability issues with the Radiocorner server. We have been finding it harder to find the time to maintain the service and ensure the reliability of the lists, so we feel that it would be best to relocate the group back to YahooGroups, and make use of their server farms for reliability of both service and backups, as well as the web based search capabilities that they offer that we do not. We'll probably make the changeover around the end of the month, and will be migrating all users from this list to the new one and advising when it is done. Regards, Geoff VK2XJG _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tnp at dodo.com.au Sun Aug 16 19:02:51 2009 From: vk4tnp at dodo.com.au (vk4tnp at dodo.com.au) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:02:51 +0000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation In-Reply-To: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> References: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> Message-ID: <848159338-1250413390-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-719707688-@bda042.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> U Sent via BlackBerry? from Telstra -----Original Message----- From: "Geoff Gatward" Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:46:51 To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation Just a clarification on this message: The list will be moving from the current radiocorner servers, NOT TO YAHOO. The 'mailman' format will be maintained, just on another host, and not under my management. Radiocorner hosts several mailing lists and this was a generic message to all groups. If better options than YahooGroups exist, they will be used. Regards, Geoff From: Geoff Gatward [mailto:geoff at gatwards.org] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:27 PM To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: Mailing List relocation Folks, We are going to be relocating this mailing list back to YahooGroups soon, due to several ongoing stability and availability issues with the Radiocorner server. We have been finding it harder to find the time to maintain the service and ensure the reliability of the lists, so we feel that it would be best to relocate the group back to YahooGroups, and make use of their server farms for reliability of both service and backups, as well as the web based search capabilities that they offer that we do not. We'll probably make the changeover around the end of the month, and will be migrating all users from this list to the new one and advising when it is done. Regards, Geoff VK2XJG _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From Darryl at Radio-Active.Net.Au Mon Aug 17 06:50:21 2009 From: Darryl at Radio-Active.Net.Au (Darryl Smith) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:50:21 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation In-Reply-To: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> References: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> Message-ID: <086501ca1eb3$2b9fe980$82dfbc80$@Net.Au> Thanks Geoff, I can confirm that the OzAPRS list will be remaining on the existing domain. I am currently working on getting approval from another organization to host this list. I am pretty sure it will be a no-brainer for them, but I need approval before it can be announced. For the users it will probably mean that new passwords will be issues. But I will do all I can to make things seamless. The email address of this list will not be changing. And to Geoff, thanks for hosting this list since we left Macquarie Uni. It is most appreciated. Darryl --------- Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 Int] - 02 9618 6459 www.radio-active.net.au/blog/ - www.radio-active.net.au/web/tracking/ _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From geoff-lists at gatwards.org Fri Aug 21 20:12:38 2009 From: geoff-lists at gatwards.org (Geoff) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:12:38 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation In-Reply-To: <086501ca1eb3$2b9fe980$82dfbc80$@Net.Au> References: <022d01ca1e3d$5804d330$080e7990$@org> <086501ca1eb3$2b9fe980$82dfbc80$@Net.Au> Message-ID: <027201ca2247$ec5ab370$c5101a50$@org> Hi Darryl, How are you looking for relocating the list to TAPR ? The current box will be turned off in a little over a week.... Regards, Geoff -----Original Message----- From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On Behalf Of Darryl Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50 AM To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: RE: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation Thanks Geoff, I can confirm that the OzAPRS list will be remaining on the existing domain. I am currently working on getting approval from another organization to host this list. I am pretty sure it will be a no-brainer for them, but I need approval before it can be announced. For the users it will probably mean that new passwords will be issues. But I will do all I can to make things seamless. The email address of this list will not be changing. And to Geoff, thanks for hosting this list since we left Macquarie Uni. It is most appreciated. Darryl --------- Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 Int] - 02 9618 6459 www.radio-active.net.au/blog/ - www.radio-active.net.au/web/tracking/ _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From bobrad at internode.on.net Fri Aug 21 20:16:36 2009 From: bobrad at internode.on.net (Bob) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:36 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] please unsubscribe Message-ID: _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From rendrag at rendrag.net Fri Aug 21 20:46:28 2009 From: rendrag at rendrag.net (Damien Gardner Jnr) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:46:28 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] please unsubscribe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6B5BB573-4D44-46F8-9AC6-6A248E53191F@rendrag.net> Do like it says in the message header, and email ozaprs-request at aprs.net.au?subject=unsubscribe :) Or just click the URL at the bottom of every email and do it that way :) --DG Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder On 21/08/2009, at 8:16 PM, Bob wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From vk4tec at tech-software.net Sat Aug 22 10:43:08 2009 From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich (Home)) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:43:08 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Wanted: HT for APRS Message-ID: <58403356C1904D88A4B2DA49F8CBA829@home9e3111fa81> Hello I am lookign for a HT for the car to work with a opentracker kit. Can anyone recommend ? I see ebay has quite a few. Andrew's Comms ? Which ones has PTT on headphone socket ? Recent purchase ? ---------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Rich Aiways Technical Officer Grade 4 Surveillance - RADAR ADS-B Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC email: vk4tec at tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From rendrag at rendrag.net Sun Aug 23 19:07:52 2009 From: rendrag at rendrag.net (Damien Gardner Jnr) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:07:52 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> References: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> Message-ID: On 23/08/2009, at 7:07 AM, Phillip wrote: > > Has anyone got any more info on this BEAST ???? > > http://onjapan.net/2009/hamfair/standard.html > > http://picasaweb.google.co.jp/ja7ude/YaesuBoothAtTokyoHamFair2009# > > 73 Phillip > ZL2TZE Hard to get a good look at it, since none of the picture links work, but is it just me, or does it look like the mic is connected into the base rather than the head? What's the point of a remote-head transceiver if the mic plugs into the base unit? Wierdness :\ --DG Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder From vk2lqz at wia.org.au Sun Aug 23 19:15:08 2009 From: vk2lqz at wia.org.au (James Cameron) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:15:08 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: References: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> Message-ID: <20090823091508.GD10137@us.netrek.org> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 07:07:52PM +1000, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > [...] or does it look like the mic is connected into the > base rather than the head? What's the point of a remote-head > transceiver if the mic plugs into the base unit? Seems normal to me. IC-208H does the same, see attached snapshot of page 1 of the instruction manual. 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Darryl --------- Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 Int] - 02 9618 6459 www.radio-active.net.au/blog/ - www.radio-active.net.au/web/tracking/ -----Original Message----- From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On Behalf Of Geoff Sent: Friday, 21 August 2009 8:13 PM To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: RE: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation Hi Darryl, How are you looking for relocating the list to TAPR ? The current box will be turned off in a little over a week.... Regards, Geoff -----Original Message----- From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On Behalf Of Darryl Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50 AM To: 'Australian APRS Users' Subject: RE: [OZAPRS] RE: Mailing List relocation Thanks Geoff, I can confirm that the OzAPRS list will be remaining on the existing domain. I am currently working on getting approval from another organization to host this list. I am pretty sure it will be a no-brainer for them, but I need approval before it can be announced. For the users it will probably mean that new passwords will be issues. But I will do all I can to make things seamless. The email address of this list will not be changing. And to Geoff, thanks for hosting this list since we left Macquarie Uni. It is most appreciated. Darryl --------- Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 Int] - 02 9618 6459 www.radio-active.net.au/blog/ - www.radio-active.net.au/web/tracking/ _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs _______________________________________________ Ozaprs mailing list Ozaprs at aprs.net.au http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From imills at awa.com.au Sun Aug 23 18:12:02 2009 From: imills at awa.com.au (Ian Mills) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:12:02 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Mailing List relocation Message-ID: <2F47C43B8FE5D211A69600A0C9DCBB880D7B3070@RH> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 36718 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.aprs.net.au/pipermail/ozaprs/attachments/20090823/9ad987cb/attachment-0001.gif From rendrag at rendrag.net Sun Aug 23 19:51:04 2009 From: rendrag at rendrag.net (Damien Gardner Jnr) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:51:04 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <20090823091508.GD10137@us.netrek.org> References: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> <20090823091508.GD10137@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <5D06EF27-5E2C-42BE-A291-B9E52C13F614@rendrag.net> On 23/08/2009, at 7:15 PM, James Cameron wrote: > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 07:07:52PM +1000, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: >> [...] or does it look like the mic is connected into the >> base rather than the head? What's the point of a remote-head >> transceiver if the mic plugs into the base unit? > > Seems normal to me. IC-208H does the same, see attached snapshot of > page 1 of the instruction manual. > > For mobile use, the base unit would be placed near the microphone hook > position, and the head would be placed in the human visual field. > > Extending the microphone cable would be the next thing to do. Weirdness.. Maybe they're not expecting folks to be putting them in cars with BCM's and ECU's.. I know my commodore doesn't like it when you hit transmit if the transceiver is inside the cab.. Hell, the BCM drops the tacho and cruise control whenever HF transmits, if the swr isn't slightly perfect (so any time it happens to transmit and you've got a car beside you or too close in front! Wonder how a 4m long mic extension would go?! Only remote head gear I have (FT8100, and a GME TX3400), the mics plugged into the head units - just seems strange not to have the mic plug into the head unit! It's not like any cars built in the last 20 years have room up front for a transceiver! Cheers, DG Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.aprs.net.au/pipermail/ozaprs/attachments/20090823/38f1dad3/attachment.htm From vk7ybi at yahoo.com.au Sun Aug 23 19:56:01 2009 From: vk7ybi at yahoo.com.au (Dion Bramich) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:56:01 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <20090823091508.GD10137@us.netrek.org> References: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> <20090823091508.GD10137@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: My 2720 can have the mic connected to the head or main unit. On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:15:08 +1000, James Cameron wrote: > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 07:07:52PM +1000, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: >> [...] or does it look like the mic is connected into the >> base rather than the head? What's the point of a remote-head >> transceiver if the mic plugs into the base unit? > > Seems normal to me. IC-208H does the same, see attached snapshot of > page 1 of the instruction manual. > > For mobile use, the base unit would be placed near the microphone hook > position, and the head would be placed in the human visual field. > > Extending the microphone cable would be the next thing to do. > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From vk2hlt at netspace.net.au Sun Aug 23 20:56:23 2009 From: vk2hlt at netspace.net.au (vk2hlt at netspace.net.au) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:56:23 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <5D06EF27-5E2C-42BE-A291-B9E52C13F614@rendrag.net> References: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> <20090823091508.GD10137@us.netrek.org> <5D06EF27-5E2C-42BE-A291-B9E52C13F614@rendrag.net> Message-ID: <1251024983.4a912057caa22@webmail.netspace.net.au> Kenwood TMD700 mic only plugs into tranciever, My other radio Yaesu FT857D is the same ? Also not sure what " modern " cars you speak of DG but the VE commodore has enough room for a party under the front seats :) Also my 2004 Prado has room for a couple of radios under each seat, neither of these vehicles are slightly concerned by high power radios in the cabin space. Cheers Tim Quoting Damien Gardner Jnr : > On 23/08/2009, at 7:15 PM, James Cameron wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 07:07:52PM +1000, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > >> [...] or does it look like the mic is connected into the > >> base rather than the head? What's the point of a remote-head > >> transceiver if the mic plugs into the base unit? > > > > Seems normal to me. IC-208H does the same, see attached snapshot of > > page 1 of the instruction manual. > > > > For mobile use, the base unit would be placed near the microphone hook > > position, and the head would be placed in the human visual field. > > > > Extending the microphone cable would be the next thing to do. > > Weirdness.. Maybe they're not expecting folks to be putting them in > cars with BCM's and ECU's.. I know my commodore doesn't like it when > you hit transmit if the transceiver is inside the cab.. Hell, the BCM > drops the tacho and cruise control whenever HF transmits, if the swr > isn't slightly perfect (so any time it happens to transmit and you've > got a car beside you or too close in front! > > Wonder how a 4m long mic extension would go?! Only remote head gear I > have (FT8100, and a GME TX3400), the mics plugged into the head units > - just seems strange not to have the mic plug into the head unit! > It's not like any cars built in the last 20 years have room up front > for a transceiver! > > Cheers, > > DG > > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > > ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au From rendrag at rendrag.net Sun Aug 23 21:52:38 2009 From: rendrag at rendrag.net (Damien Gardner Jnr) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:52:38 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <1251024983.4a912057caa22@webmail.netspace.net.au> References: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> <20090823091508.GD10137@us.netrek.org> <5D06EF27-5E2C-42BE-A291-B9E52C13F614@rendrag.net> <1251024983.4a912057caa22@webmail.netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <1BD2692E-D02F-4108-8A52-7162F82239DA@rendrag.net> On 23/08/2009, at 8:56 PM, vk2hlt at netspace.net.au wrote: > Kenwood TMD700 mic only plugs into tranciever, My other radio Yaesu > FT857D is > the same ? Also not sure what " modern " cars you speak of DG but > the VE > commodore has enough room for a party under the front seats :) Also > my 2004 > Prado has room for a couple of radios under each seat, neither of > these > vehicles are slightly concerned by high power radios in the cabin > space. > Cheers Tim Hrrm, weird - can't really see the point of a remote-head unit if you've got to run two cables to the front of the vehicle.. When I said the front of the car, I was talking the actual front - i.e. the dash, where you're going to have your mic ;) I've seen a few folks put stuff under the seats, but I'd be too worried about a) them getting soaked if you get water into the car, and b) getting beaten up by stuff rolling around from the back seat.. That and I dont' know about the VE, but the VT and VY's we have, there's only about an inch of clearance under there if you drop the seats to their low setting, and personally I don't want a transceiver right next to the firing whatsits for the seatbelt pullers (the ones that go off with the airbags in an accident). That and even under the seat, you're going to need an extension to get the mic up to the dash..? My old VR, and my current VTii die in the arse if you hit transmit with a transceiver in the front of the car, and my VTii, and the missus' VYii, the tacho drops to 0, and the cruise control drops out, if the antenna isn't tuned in when you transmit on HF.. Cheers, DG Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Blyth, VK1HNB Canberra, ACT, Australia 2009/8/22 Andrew Rich (Home) > Hello > > I am lookign for a HT for the car to work with a opentracker kit. > > Can anyone recommend ? > > I see ebay has quite a few. > > Andrew's Comms ? > > Which ones has PTT on headphone socket ? > > Recent purchase ? > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Rich > Aiways Technical Officer Grade 4 > Surveillance - RADAR ADS-B > Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC > email: vk4tec at tech-software.net > web: www.tech-software.net > _______________________________________________ > Ozaprs mailing list > Ozaprs at aprs.net.au > http://aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are still working on getting the final hosting solution set up, but decided to move the mailing list so that people still have access to the mailing list. Sorry about any inconvenience this causes. Darryl --------- Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 Int] - 02 9618 6459 www.radio-active.net.au/blog/ - www.radio-active.net.au/web/tracking/ From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On Behalf Of Matthew Vaughan Sent: Monday, 24 August 2009 5:39 AM To: ozaprs at aprs.net.au Subject: [OZAPRS] Digest format Hi all, Is the Digest mode still available on the new system? Cheers, Matt V -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.aprs.net.au/pipermail/ozaprs/attachments/20090824/04bff272/attachment-0001.htm From tim at ahpee.org Mon Aug 24 07:35:34 2009 From: tim at ahpee.org (Tim Ahpee) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:35:34 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <1BD2692E-D02F-4108-8A52-7162F82239DA@rendrag.net> References: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> <20090823091508.GD10137@us.netrek.org> <5D06EF27-5E2C-42BE-A291-B9E52C13F614@rendrag.net> <1251024983.4a912057caa22@webmail.netspace.net.au> <1BD2692E-D02F-4108-8A52-7162F82239DA@rendrag.net> Message-ID: <20090823213534.GB24589@ahpee.org> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 09:52:38PM +1000, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > My old VR, and my current VTii die in the arse if you hit transmit > with a transceiver in the front of the car, and my VTii, and the > missus' VYii, the tacho drops to 0, and the cruise control drops > out, if the antenna isn't tuned in when you transmit on HF.. I had a problem last year with my Prado where each time the HF APRS transmitted it would cause the climate control to go haywire. Ray Wells, VK3TV suggested getting earthing braid straps and bonding the chassis to the body to the bonnet to anything else that is floating. I have to admit that I was sceptical at first but It sorted it a treat. But do late model Commodores even have a chassis? :-) Cheers, Tim VK3EF From ibennett at tpg.com.au Mon Aug 24 07:54:35 2009 From: ibennett at tpg.com.au (Ian Bennett) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:54:35 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <1BD2692E-D02F-4108-8A52-7162F82239DA@rendrag.net> References: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> <1251024983.4a912057caa22@webmail.netspace.net.au> <1BD2692E-D02F-4108-8A52-7162F82239DA@rendrag.net> Message-ID: <200908240754.35882.ibennett@tpg.com.au> Damien, Got two words for you......bonding and bonding ;-) Here are a few photos of how I fitted out my 100 series tractor. Included are a few pics of the bonding I did. Didn't have any radio gear installed before the install so can't comment if it fixed anything. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2014987&id=1097597881&l=7a1630233a Only issue I have at the moment is I get a buzz in the radio if listening to AM stations when the HF APRS goes off. Only seems to happen during the preamble. Will get around to looking at this eventually; not a biggy though as that combination doesn't happen very often. It was some comments by Ray (VK2TV) to another subscriber that prompted me to do the bonding. The site I used as reference is as follows: http://www.k0bg.com/bonding.html Lots of other good info in here as well. Enjoy and good luck. Ian VK1IAN On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:52:38 Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > On 23/08/2009, at 8:56 PM, vk2hlt at netspace.net.au wrote: > > Kenwood TMD700 mic only plugs into tranciever, My other radio Yaesu > > FT857D is > > the same ? Also not sure what " modern " cars you speak of DG but > > the VE > > commodore has enough room for a party under the front seats :) Also > > my 2004 > > Prado has room for a couple of radios under each seat, neither of > > these > > vehicles are slightly concerned by high power radios in the cabin > > space. > > Cheers Tim > > Hrrm, weird - can't really see the point of a remote-head unit if > you've got to run two cables to the front of the vehicle.. When I > said the front of the car, I was talking the actual front - i.e. the > dash, where you're going to have your mic ;) I've seen a few folks > put stuff under the seats, but I'd be too worried about a) them > getting soaked if you get water into the car, and b) getting beaten up > by stuff rolling around from the back seat.. That and I dont' know > about the VE, but the VT and VY's we have, there's only about an inch > of clearance under there if you drop the seats to their low setting, > and personally I don't want a transceiver right next to the firing > whatsits for the seatbelt pullers (the ones that go off with the > airbags in an accident). That and even under the seat, you're going > to need an extension to get the mic up to the dash..? > > My old VR, and my current VTii die in the arse if you hit transmit > with a transceiver in the front of the car, and my VTii, and the > missus' VYii, the tacho drops to 0, and the cruise control drops out, > if the antenna isn't tuned in when you transmit on HF.. > > Cheers, > > > DG > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder From vk2tv at exemail.com.au Mon Aug 24 08:11:35 2009 From: vk2tv at exemail.com.au (Ray Wells) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:11:35 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <200908240754.35882.ibennett@tpg.com.au> References: <4A905E2A.000004.71992@SERVER> <1251024983.4a912057caa22@webmail.netspace.net.au> <1BD2692E-D02F-4108-8A52-7162F82239DA@rendrag.net> <200908240754.35882.ibennett@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4A91BE97.50006@exemail.com.au> Nice installation, Ian. That amount of work is sure some incentive to keep the car for a looong time. Ray vk2tv Ian Bennett wrote: > Damien, > Got two words for you......bonding and bonding ;-) > Here are a few photos of how I fitted out my 100 series tractor. Included are > a few pics of the bonding I did. Didn't have any radio gear installed before > the install so can't comment if it fixed anything. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2014987&id=1097597881&l=7a1630233a > > Only issue I have at the moment is I get a buzz in the radio if listening to > AM stations when the HF APRS goes off. Only seems to happen during the > preamble. > Will get around to looking at this eventually; not a biggy though as that > combination doesn't happen very often. > It was some comments by Ray (VK2TV) to another subscriber that prompted me to > do the bonding. The site I used as reference is as follows: > > http://www.k0bg.com/bonding.html > > Lots of other good info in here as well. > Enjoy and good luck. > > Ian > VK1IAN > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:52:38 Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > >> On 23/08/2009, at 8:56 PM, vk2hlt at netspace.net.au wrote: >> >>> Kenwood TMD700 mic only plugs into tranciever, My other radio Yaesu >>> FT857D is >>> the same ? Also not sure what " modern " cars you speak of DG but >>> the VE >>> commodore has enough room for a party under the front seats :) Also >>> my 2004 >>> Prado has room for a couple of radios under each seat, neither of >>> these >>> vehicles are slightly concerned by high power radios in the cabin >>> space. >>> Cheers Tim >>> >> Hrrm, weird - can't really see the point of a remote-head unit if >> you've got to run two cables to the front of the vehicle.. When I >> said the front of the car, I was talking the actual front - i.e. the >> dash, where you're going to have your mic ;) I've seen a few folks >> put stuff under the seats, but I'd be too worried about a) them >> getting soaked if you get water into the car, and b) getting beaten up >> by stuff rolling around from the back seat.. That and I dont' know >> about the VE, but the VT and VY's we have, there's only about an inch >> of clearance under there if you drop the seats to their low setting, >> and personally I don't want a transceiver right next to the firing >> whatsits for the seatbelt pullers (the ones that go off with the >> airbags in an accident). That and even under the seat, you're going >> to need an extension to get the mic up to the dash..? >> >> My old VR, and my current VTii die in the arse if you hit transmit >> with a transceiver in the front of the car, and my VTii, and the >> missus' VYii, the tacho drops to 0, and the cruise control drops out, >> if the antenna isn't tuned in when you transmit on HF.. >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> DG >> >> Damien Gardner Jnr >> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust >> rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ >> -- >> We rode on the winds of the rising storm, >> We ran to the sounds of thunder. >> We danced among the lightning bolts, >> and tore the world asunder >> > > > _______________________________________________ > OZAPRS mailing list > OZAPRS at aprs.net.au > http://lists.aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > From rg5023 at internode.on.net Mon Aug 24 08:13:35 2009 From: rg5023 at internode.on.net (Rob, VK5FX) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:43:35 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <200908240754.35882.ibennett@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Ian, Just bought a 100 Series myself. Sorry mate, couldn't help myself... had to save every photo. Thanks for your time and effort. Best 73 Rob http://lists.aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From ibennett at tpg.com.au Mon Aug 24 08:22:36 2009 From: ibennett at tpg.com.au (Ian Bennett) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:22:36 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908240822.36579.ibennett@tpg.com.au> Got the Hires versions as well if you want them. Hit me off list with an address and I'll send you a CD. On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:13:35 Rob, VK5FX wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Just bought a 100 Series myself. Sorry mate, couldn't help myself... had to > save every photo. > Thanks for your time and effort. > > Best 73 > > Rob > http://lists.aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs > > _______________________________________________ > OZAPRS mailing list > OZAPRS at aprs.net.au > http://lists.aprs.net.au/mailman/listinfo/ozaprs From rg5023 at internode.on.net Mon Aug 24 08:25:28 2009 From: rg5023 at internode.on.net (Rob, VK5FX) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:55:28 +0930 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: <200908240754.35882.ibennett@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Ian (again), Sorry bloke, OT I know, & I apologise to the group. However, what year is your Cruiser, that bullbar looks good, what's the brand Toyota, or another brand? Once again, apologies to the group for the OT query. Yours in Amateur Radio, Rob From VK4AJ0 at optusnet.com.au Mon Aug 24 11:30:27 2009 From: VK4AJ0 at optusnet.com.au (VK4AJ0 (optus)) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:30:27 +1000 Subject: [OZAPRS] Vertex New FTM 350 Aprs rig In-Reply-To: