[OZAPRS] Foundation Calls reminder

Mon Jun 23 21:14:45 EST 2008

G'day,

The main part of the new LCD Regulations that may relate to IGates could be
considered to be below.

However one would first have to determine if the APRS-IS is considered a
connection to a public telecommunications network or a restricted VPN type
of network (similar to the old packet wormholes).

In the previous LCD APRS and APRS-IS was considered a restricted VPN type of
network that had in place an appropriate verification system that did not
allow the 'public' to easily access the network. Which I understand is still
the case. In which case the onus is on the License holder to make sure they
do not use a mode or band that they are not licensed for (LCD Section 8A 3).
If they knowingly and consistently breached their licensing conditions it
would probably make a case for the ACMA to act.

Though if this is not the case and the regulations have a new
interpretation, the appropriately licensed IGate station owner would have to
provide a means that would only allow appropriately licensed persons
beacons/data to be transmitted through their IGate station.

Interpretation has a big bearing on how the system is / will be configured.

I may have to talk with the WIA to get their interpretation on this.

After we have solved this we can move on to third party traffic :-)

Cheers

Richard

VK3JFK

11A Restrictions on connection to a public telecommunications

network - general

(1) This section applies to

(a) an amateur standard station; and

(b) an amateur advanced station; and

(c) an amateur repeater station.

(2) The licensee must not, directly or indirectly, connect the station to a
public

telecommunications network, unless the licensee has implemented

reasonable measures to ensure that only appropriately licensed persons

access the station to transmit a signal to another amateur station.

(3) In this section:

appropriately licensed person means a person holding a licence that

authorises that person to operate a station using the frequency and emission

mode of the station being accessed.

Note 1 A licensee who operates a station connected to the public
telecommunications

network is not required to authorise other persons to operate the station
for the purpose of

accessing the station.

Note 2 For the purpose of the amateur service, the Internet is considered to
be part of a

public telecommunications network.

11B Restrictions on connection from a public telecommunications

network

(1) This subsection applies to:

(a) an amateur standard station; and

(b) an amateur advanced station.

(2) If a licensee connects a person from a public telecommunications network

to the station, whether manually or automatically, the licensee must:

(a) advise the person being connected that his or her transmissions may be

overheard by other persons; and

Federal Register of Legislative Instruments F2008C00085

Conditions for amateur licence (amateur standard station, amateur advanced

station and amateur repeater station)

Part 2A

Section 11B

Radiocommunications Licence Conditions (Amateur

Licence) Determination No. 1 of 1997

15

(b) advise the person being connected to disconnect if he or she does not

wish to proceed with the connection.

Note It is an offence, under subsection 7 (1) of the Telecommunications
(Interception and

Access) Act 1979 to intercept a communication passing over a
telecommunications system.

Under subsection 6 (1) of that Act, interception of a communication passing
over a

telecommunications system means listening to or recording, by any means,
such a

communication in its passage over that telecommunications system without the
knowledge

of the person making the communication.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On

> Behalf Of Geoff

> Sent: Monday, 23 June 2008 5:43 PM

> To: 'Australian APRS Users'

> Subject: RE: [OZAPRS] Foundation Calls reminder

> 

> Exactly.  The restriction should only apply for 4 letter calls.  Yes

> VK2FIRE

> is making it to RF - that's how it was detected on several D700's driving

> around last week.

> 

> VK2FOUR on the other hand went a bit overboard - we added him to the

> budlist

> on every digipeater and IGate in the region, and when he realized that his

> data was no longer showing up on findu he started beaconing as  VK2-4

> (which also has been blocked)

> 

> I approached the author of the javAPRSsrvr package (in use at many IGates

> including the two national servers) about implementing an exclusion filter

> based on callsign patterns. . .  The answer was a definite NO - not now

> and

> there never will be (due to legal issues that arose in the USA by doing

> this)

> 

> SO - It remains up to us as users to educate the offending stations on

> their

> license issue, and up to individual IGates to exclude the traffic from

> reaching RF locally.   If they continue to offend, then we have no choice

> really but to individually add that station to the budlist/exclude list of

> the relevant digipeaters and IGates.

> 

> Geoff

> VK2XJG

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au [mailto:ozaprs-bounces at aprs.net.au] On

> Behalf Of Gio

> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:48 PM

> To: Australian APRS Users

> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Foundation Calls reminder

> 

> Don't filter calls starting with F!  I have been a Full call (or advanced

> as

> 

> it is now known) for 27 years, and am certainly not an F call.  But my

> call

> is VK2FJP.  Many more calls starting with F would be very upset if we were

> filtered out.

> Cheers, Gio.

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Hamish Moffatt" <hamish at cloud.net.au>

> To: <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>

> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:28 PM

> Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] Foundation Calls reminder

> 

> 

> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 05:23:55PM +1200, Ian ZL1VFO wrote:

> >> filter p/VK -p/VK1F/VK2F/VK3F/VK4F/VK5F/VK6F/VK7F/VK8F/VK9F

> >>

> >> The p/VK2 says pass all callsigns starting with VK2 and the -p/VK2F

> adds

> >> the exclusion of any VK2F calls.

> >>

> >> Should be good enough...?

> >

> > Three-letter suffixes beginning with F still need to be allowed...

> >

> >

> > Hamish

> > --

> > Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish at debian.org> <hamish at cloud.net.au>

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