[OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting +confusion....

[Mike Townsend]

I would like to remind all on why the new widen-n paradigm discussion was 
started as it has been sidetracked for the most part by ZONEn-n.

To hopefully move the use of  APRS forward in VK. Terry you say it isn't 
broken. That may be the case in your area. Here in the Western suburbs of 
Sydney I think it is. If as previosly stated a new or potential new APRS 
operator looks around the net what does he find? He finds reference after 
reference as to why the old system should be dropped and the new paradigm
in 
wide use overseas.He has a closer look to home and all he finds is what 
outwardly appears to be an outdated and defunct system. So what are they 
likely to think. Possibly like myself that APRS has stagnated here in 
Australia. But unlike myself they just might move on.

How about looking progressive. The proposed changes are not that 
complicated.
If for now you want to keep using RELAY then so be it.  All you have to do

is move WIDE to UITRACE at the digis so we get the benefit of DUPE packet 
checking. Plus change the beacons to reflect support for the new WIDEn-n 
paradigm and RELAY if you wish. For the current operators your PATH
becomes 
RELAY,WIDE2-1 for the same amount of hops as RELAY,WIDE. For those that 
think the new paradigm is the way to go then they will use WIDE1-1,
WIDE2-1 
for the two hops as appears to be the case in SA.

Is that asking too much?
This then keeps both sides of the debate happy and all this new paradigm 
discussion can cease.

At home why not put WIDE1-1 in your alias list it sits quite comfortably 
there next to RELAY.
I support both with the fill in digi I run even though my beacon advocates

that MOBILES use WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2 three hops.

Mike VK2INT

Half a step forward is better than none at all.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Neumann" <tfn at rbe.net.au>
To: "VK / ZL APRS Users" <ozaprs at aprs.net.au>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [OZAPRS] European v USnewparadigmand pathlimiting 
+confusion....


> My mobile stations are set to a path of "relay, wide".    It works.   It
> will also work (and does) for anyone else who passes through the central
> north of VK5 who uses "relay" in their path.
>
> I would be very reluctant to fix something which isn't broken ....
>
> 73
> Terry
> VK5ATN
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